I've never been Valor13. I was previously N*E*F.

dude, I never was either.
I've done bad s%$t before but
never, ever been RACIST!

god, I am NOT valor 13

Were Valor13 and Night Creeper one in the same? Or are they just both Firefly fanatics that are d@mn annoying....

Eiither way, this guy is pretty annoying. I've had multiple PM's from him before. Watchout!!

Okay guys, I'm pretty sure valor13 (or valor11 as he currently goes by) is NOT joefan21/Firefly#1/stormshadowisdeadly/night creeper/beach head rocks/cobra firefly/others.

Why do I believe that?
Because valor11 actually POSTED HIS OWN PHOTOS.
Also, I never saw him ask for toys like the other accounts have. As such, I don't believe valor11/valor13 to be the same as The Firefly Beggar (as I will therefore refer the geek from Big Stone Gap as).

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I believe so. Does it matter? He's been AT LEAST; Night Creeper, StormShadowIsDeadly and has at LEAST one other account. HE's been banned at LEAST 2 times....and if he's NOT Valor 11-13 and the rest, he lives with that person, because they both use the same mailing address when begging for figures!





I know,Sorry for the suspicion, but when General Scarlett Banned StormShadowIsDeadly, you popped up the next day (or a few days after) and I remember someone was thinking you were him. Another good reason to ban this beggar, he has spread doubt and suspicion among us. Anyone who mentions "I like Firelfly" or has a Firefly avatar sets off warning bells in my head.



But you WERE StromShadowIsDeadly, Night Creeper, YOU ARE NOT 21 like you claimed in one of your posts, you have at Least ONE Version firefly that you supposedly let your brother set on fire, you've told lies and been disrespectful and you are a totally annoying....well, not beggar...a beggar BEGS..you Demand! Why should ANYONE Believe you? You may not be these others, but with all the lies you have told, how can you expect anyone on this forum in their right mind to believe you? How many times have you been back? How many times have you Lied and thought we were all fools not to see through your simple and childish lies? You act like we are fools and thinking I'm THAT STUPID ticks me off worse than ANYTHING else you have done! And are you telling me that you and Valor13 can live in the same house and not know each other? You both used the same mailing address and name when you asked for figures!


GROW UP. The world is not as stupid as you think, and if you honestly think when you do go out in the world that you can use this same approach to dealing with mature intelligent people out there as you tried here, I only hope one thing for you......you're parents are rich....otherwise, hope you like MCJobs!

You're probably right. But does it really matter? WE ban either today and tomorrow we will have Valor 43 who wasn't Valor 11 or Valor 13.....and ILOveSTormShadowsandFireflys who was none of the others...oh and ....PM: I don't have many figures, got a Firefly V1 that you could sell on Ebay for $25.00 dollars you wanna give me so I can keep DEMANDING you GIVE me more?

I must hand it to you...how can you keep up with who these two have been? I just don't have the patience?

I'm just getting tired of keeping up with beggars and brats....I'm usually busy 24/7 looking on the wants/needs thread and seeing if I can hook up people who DON'T beg with extra stuff I have so I don't have to pack it up for my upcoming move!

Jeeze...I'm getting old and grouchy....what next? I won't remember what's his name was what do you call it? uhmmmm....err....hmmm..I forgot!

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??? / ?????? says:
Honestly, Frank, leave valor out of this, he hasn't caused any trouble since G gave him his final chance.

Frank says:

I know....but these kids have FINALLY poushed me over the edge! you ban them and they keep coming back again and again under different names....I can't keep 'em straight!

??? / ?????? says:

Well valor just rejoined with different numbers after his name and never tried to disguise his persona. The Big Stone Gap kid on the other hand keeps getting new different-sounding accounts.

Frank says:

True....mind if I post these last few IM's you sent me to correct that?

??? / ?????? says:

Not at all, go right ahead.
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I think he's right. I am being HArd on Valor 11. Maybe they aren't the same person. And after looking in my PM's...it was StormShadowisDeadly, Firefly#1, ect that have the same address....NOT Valor 11. So for acccusing you two of being the other..I apologize......but for the rest...sorry... no apology forthcoming! I stand by what I said.


Frank

yeah joefan PMed me before i knew anything about this wanting me to do a myspace profile with a firefly background for him and send him the URL

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