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Old 10-04-2008, 10:11 AM #21
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Graham, all ya can do is keep your own life straight. You can't change other people. You either have to love them or let them go. A Girl and I once liked each other, but we both wanted the other to change to suit what we wanted. But if we had done that, neither of us could be ourselves. We only saw in the other what we WANTED that person to be, not WHAT they were. You can't change a person's nature.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:36 PM #22
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Originally Posted by Sonneilon
The problem is, I keep on running into people with these malfunctions. EVEN if I don't know about them beforehand, I just gravitate toward 'em.


Sonn,
There is a fact that I always remember when my own life seems to come up a steamy pile of shite, and I keep bumping into the same kind of individuals who seem to make my life a wonder hole...I'm a magnet for freaks. Look around you...if you can't pick out the freak magnet, guess what!

As far as anger...we all have that point where the incredible stupidity that humanity is capable of comes to boil our Cheerios. Perspective is the only thing that keeps most of us from climbing the clock tower and dispensing some high velocity cleansing.

Just keep the faith (whatever faith you have) and don't let them wear you down.
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Old 10-04-2008, 08:55 PM #23
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Powerful stuff's been said, I'm just here ta tell my story.

It was 6th grade when it hit the fan. i was gullible, naive, and shy. add aspergers syndrome, and i was the guy flying an ultralight in a dogfight between MiGs. i nearly went insane. took me atleast 2 years to fully regain my former self. ran into another bunch of hudlums. this time i was prepared. they would brag about all the stuff they do when out of school, and id smile to my self thinking how i was succeeding and they were sleeping all day. now i am pursuing training in CADD so i can further my pursuit of aeronautical engineer. and i did get eagle scout.

now sonn, i know that whoever employs you next will be eager ta hire an eagle scout.

and about the girl thing, yes. they are everywhere. there were a few of them in the program i was at not to long ago. my buddy there said it best. "They have to love themselves before ever loving anyone else." and when i asked why they go for the violent guys in a group discussion, i never got an answer. it still baffles me as to why they go fer the jerks instead of the nice guys.(and by nice i dont mean submissive and dumb as dirt)


i guess having my "crisis" early on just made me grow up faster. kids my age and adults cunfuse the heck outta my with their social "walk arounds" and over complications.

well ive ranted too much.
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Old 10-04-2008, 09:58 PM #24
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Mobius, good to see you around.

I know I've asked here and on the JBL as well as friends, "Just what is it with women who go back to their POS guys and/or STAY with them?" It's like, they know the situation sucks, but they can't make that step to do what is right. Sure, we all have our faults, but man... I was just angry with her because Kristine KNOWS the guy is gonna beat her again and what not. If not physically, then mentally.

Everyone I talked to about these generalized issues have said :

1) the gal is afraid of loss
2) the gal is afraid to be alone
3) the challenge IS to change the guy
4) they're dumb/damaged/mental, etc
5) low self-esteem
6) they learn to think that the abuse is NORMAL
7) they feel loved and abuse is love (got me on that one)



It's a good thing I never put that much emotional value into this one. I honestly felt RELIEVED when things blew over. Cuz the week before the blowout, I was having these sort of thoughts.

-What if our parenting styles don't mesh
-What if the kids don't get along
-Just how the frak do i get them up here. find them a place to live, where will she work etc.
-what if WE don't mesh in the end (which we obviously don't!)
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Old 10-05-2008, 07:55 AM #25
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Well I might be just talking out of my ass but I think that women who constantly gets together with evil guys loves evil because they want to be evil themselves but they dont dare too because they are weak. So they spend their life sucking up to scum in the hope that they will be on the same "team".
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Old 10-05-2008, 09:10 AM #26
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Graham, I think one point you failed to make is women tend to treat men as they do kids "He's a bad little boy now, but I can mold him into a good man". What they fail to realize is, you can't change someone's nature. Women, like men hate to fail at their basic nature which is to rear young, and if they can't fix a wayward child, what does that say about their skills as a nurturing figure?

Honestly, I can't say EXACTLY why women do it. Some Men do it to, hang with women who drag them down. It's the nature of the universe I guess. The easiest thing is to quit worrying about why it happens and move on!
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:22 AM #27
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Thumbs up Consequences..

I gotta say you got alot of support here G-man. Which is great, the one thing that I see from this point is that you keep attracting people with ''messed up lives'' you know why their lives are messed up right?

I know quite alot of people locally, and alot of them have messed up lives, just as Frank refers to in his post, when he returns home he see's ex-girlfriends or girls he dated with bad situations, alot of them refuse to accept the consequences of the paths they chosen many years ago.

You can only advise you can't push or enforce the change, when you meet these girls in the future just remember that you can't save them all, and even though they all aren't aware of the consequences of their actions, we can see and hear about geniune life evidence with the post from Bravo... of the girl he dated/got involved with for 1 year. He got himself in the middle and despite having a better life and happier future to provide for her and her son she still chose the wrong path... she'll only know its the wrong path in the future.. but Bravo done the smart thing and got out.

Locally I know this husband and wife who beat each other senseless, and their kids are all grown up now in their 20s and they think the answer to every problem is to resort to violence... theres this saying.. it goes like this...
"Shit breeds shit'' if you have parents that don't love or care.. and have no regard for the law.. your gonna end up with a messed up scenario.. the police were always constantly round at their house, eventually the parents got kicked out of the rented house by the local authority... somehting to do with a public order notice or something. After so many call outs by the authorities they get moved to another area.

You've always struck me as a level headed person, someone who takes pride in his projects and someone who is quite logical with problems, so like everyone says, you can only be responsible for the paths you choose in your own life, at some stage you'll be due a good person, hey out of all those chosen one of them will be a keeper, and they'll realise all those good qualities that shine in you as a person and stick with you. I know its frustrating not being able to help others but sometimes you have to let them go and make those mistakes on their own.

Me personally, I see myself very much as someone who respects others and accepts the consequences of my own actions, I actually learnt this from the GTA Videogame... I know how messed up is that?
In this one scene Tommy V spots his partner in crime by the bar... theres been a problem with the racketeering scheme they setup and lance says ''I'm sorting it'' in quick retaliation Tommy snaps ''how? by drinking by the bar, you call this sorting it?'' scroll on a few missions later, Lance calls you up and snaps
"I dont like you talking me down in front of the others'' in response... Tommy states "Hey Lance, You screwed up, if I screw up you can bust my A$$ for it in front of them, dont screw up and we wont have this problem"
The motto of this to be learnt is that far too many people aren't willing to accept the consequences of their actions or the paths they've chosen.. some of them are living life blind and simply dont see them until its too late.

more recently i've had alot of trouble accepting some things in life, corruption and greed being two of them. I hate that I can't change some of the laws in my own country, I hate that every couple of years we elect someone different into power that changes very little and I hate that certain criminals are left to walk the streets and harm good people... I hate that paedophiles and rapists roam my local area and I can't do anything about it... what can I do about those things? Nothing.. not at the moment... all I can be is a good citizen and be my own person, make sure my friends and family are well looked after and do the best I can. I have alot of hatred for things in my life I cant control... some of which i haven't even listed here.. thats only the tip of the iceberg... we all deal with things in a different way I guess it goes without sayin though, if you ever do need to let some heat out you have my msn address.

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Old 10-05-2009, 12:07 PM #28
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G, there is nothing wrong with feeling anger. It's part of being human, and the only way to overcome the anger is to work through it and deal with it. All you need to do is be true to your self, rise above other people's pettiness and vindictiveness, and live your life how you want to. Each and everyone of us is responsible for our own actions, there is nothing we can do about how other people choose to behave. it's like the old saying:
"Give me the courage to change what I can,
and the strength to endure what I can't,
and the wisdom to know the difference."
None of us are perfect, we all make mistakes. It's how we deal with them that defines who we are. I know you're strong enough to come through all this a better man.
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:02 PM #29
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Whoa... This is an old post. Since then, I've gone thru how many OTHER problems?

I am doing well tho. Several friends all around wonder just how I can stand being alone. I mean, I'm not even LOOKING for a gal, y'know? I got my Thomas, I got friends, I got my hobbies... But over the last few months, things have changed again. (lol)

Like, I've changed my diet again. Some of you may have known I was on the Blood Type Diet. I'm a B so I was eating about 90% accordingly to the diet. As of early August, I changed to a non-gluten, sugar-free, alcohol-free diet to help my psoriasis (which I lovingly refer to as GeoStigma tho most people don't get it...). The hardest part is the alcohol and with all the other meds (natural, organic meds at that), it seems to be slowly be working.

School's back on again. THings are going ok there. Summer classes were hell. But hey...

I gave up on FFXI Online late spring/early summer and that helped a lot. Addiction? Hard to say. I just got tired of the way people treat each other. Some say, "it's just a game" but let's face it, they punk you on the game or treat you like crap, I figure they would in real life too.

Anyway... go back to compiling your nominating fotos for the 1st Annual JD Awards Show!
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