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Originally Posted by Sonneilon
Actually, the end of GI Joe the comic and the floundering toyline both suffered from the politics of the time. Take this topic to the JBL and hear a more in-depth answer.
I stopped w/ Joe after the Cobra War and when DiC started. The whole ninja thing, I had no idea. I thought it was cool thru the 1st 80 issues but when I heard that SE's parents were killed by CC's brother and all that... I just rolled my eyes. It sounded pretty dumb, imo. Ender brings up a great point about Beach Head. DD's been pushing him incredibly hard and it doesn't do anything for me. It's also probably why I ne'er cared much for Duke and Flint cuz the cartoon always shoved in our faces.
But in a way, maybe that's a good thing? Look at the S6 cartoon. Which characters are they utterly destroying? I won't mention Tunnel Rat cuz they've utterly goofed on him, but Heavy Duty? Sure, let them destroy Heavy Duty, nobody would care. But if they goofed Roadblock, the old folks would crap bricks! So what I'm saying, if your fave chars were pushed by Marvel and DD and treated the same way? Let SE and Scar, Duke and Flint be the scapegoats while OTHERs can be loved by us in our own way.
I'd be pretty bummed if DD had taken duders like Repeater and Muskrat and messed 'em all up. And I bet if they took Outrider's faves and messed up his 'hard' military guys, he'd be pretty bugged too. Let the ninja be ninja or whatever Hasbro thinks they are. It doesn't mean YOU have to treat them that way. Now where's that geek icon again?
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You've made some great points there, G. It's not just about Snake Eyes, but any character that was overused. There were times during the Marvel run when I got sick of seeing Stalker, or Roadblock, or Destro because they were used so much. I always wanted to see varied team members get some page time; there were some great characters that never saw the light of day in the entire run.
You also made a good point about just because SE was portrayed as a ninja in the comics, doesn't mean he has to be one in anyone else's Joeverse. For me, SE is a highly trained commando. Every single figure you own is what you want it to be. There were multiple characters killed off by Larry Hama, but they are still kicking in my Joeverse. No one should feel restrained by what happened in the comics or on the cartoons if they don't like the storylines or how certain characters were portrayed.
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