I think a lot of people agree with you. I'd almost say a majority of the fandom agrees. Personally, I like Snake-Eyes. I have no problem with him being a ninja as well as a commando. However, I don't think he's the greatest warrior on the face of the Earth, and I do think he was way overexposed near the end of the Marvel run. I think he's probably the best commando on the Joe team, but Storm Shadow is a better ninja.

Yeah, you're right. In the comics he's way overused. But it's the same with Duke and Flint in the cartoon. And with DD, I think they beat the horse dead with Beachhead! I really think they need to dig into some of the other characters. Lowlight has always fascinated me. His original story was he was an abused kid who was afraid of the dark and daddy punished him by leaving him in the woods at night with only a rifle,...or something to that effect. I liked MainFrame, too! Too bad DD killed him off. We hardly know anything about Grand Slam either! What about Airtight? I'd like to see his "behind the scenes" life. There are so many characters they could develop if they layed off Snake eyes.

on another note, I'd like to see more with Wraith!

You certainly are entitled to express your opinion, and I agree with you one hundred percent. I was as hardcore a Joe fan as could be back then, but even I got sick of the whole Snake Eyes/Storm Shadow ninja rubbish towards the end of the Marvel run. I also agree that it probably hastened the demise GI Joe, along with the fact that Hasbro killed the toy line because no one was buying the unadalterated crap they were churning out by the early/mid nineties. Snake Eyes certainly has purpose in my Joeverse, but he ain't no ninja.

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Yeah, the superhuman ninja crap got old real quick....and the whole "Firefly...was he or wasn't he a ninja" thing...BLAH! And then the "let's jump on EVERY bandwagon to get our piece of the pie" thing! (You know....Mega Marines= Aliens, Eco Warriors = Capt Planet, DEF = COPS, dino hunters = Jurrassic Park) God, I'm suprised they didn't have a new purple, red, yellow and blue GI joes to to try capitalize on Teletubbies!

for me, the Marvel stuff ended with issue 115......after that it was all downhill!

mmm, it's nice to know im not the only one who saw things this way. The only reason I thoght of this at all was that I recently read the whole marvel series comics again. I noticed at the end how every issue was about Sneak Eyes assutling all of Cobra by himself and winning. It made it seem like there was no need for a team, just let him attact by himself and kill everyone. I agree with the overuse of Duke and Flint in the cartoon too, Snake Eyes wasnt as used in them as the comics. Myself i would have loved to have had more Quick Kick, or sci-Fi or dusty.

Actually, the end of GI Joe the comic and the floundering toyline both suffered from the politics of the time. Take this topic to the JBL and hear a more in-depth answer.

I stopped w/ Joe after the Cobra War and when DiC started. The whole ninja thing, I had no idea. I thought it was cool thru the 1st 80 issues but when I heard that SE's parents were killed by CC's brother and all that... I just rolled my eyes. It sounded pretty dumb, imo. Ender brings up a great point about Beach Head. DD's been pushing him incredibly hard and it doesn't do anything for me. It's also probably why I ne'er cared much for Duke and Flint cuz the cartoon always shoved in our faces.

But in a way, maybe that's a good thing? Look at the S6 cartoon. Which characters are they utterly destroying? I won't mention Tunnel Rat cuz they've utterly goofed on him, but Heavy Duty? Sure, let them destroy Heavy Duty, nobody would care. But if they goofed Roadblock, the old folks would crap bricks! So what I'm saying, if your fave chars were pushed by Marvel and DD and treated the same way? Let SE and Scar, Duke and Flint be the scapegoats while OTHERs can be loved by us in our own way.

I'd be pretty bummed if DD had taken duders like Repeater and Muskrat and messed 'em all up. And I bet if they took Outrider's faves and messed up his 'hard' military guys, he'd be pretty bugged too. Let the ninja be ninja or whatever Hasbro thinks they are. It doesn't mean YOU have to treat them that way. Now where's that geek icon again?

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You guys gotta understand the use of 'em goes into toy politics. The concept of CORE came about and while it wasn't exactly around in the 90s, it sure was when GI Joe relaunched. Take a look at TF and see which characters are made over and over again. I'm not much of a TF fan but man, where I come from, Starscream got blown away by Galvatron and yet, he keeps on coming back in jet form???

In a way, the use of the ninja have different reasons depending on comic or toy. Toy-wise, it's all about the core now. As for the marvel comic, that's the story Hama wanted to tell and he freely admits it. As for DD dealing with it all, all I can say is that they don't know what else to do.