*OFFICIAL* 25th Figures/Vehicles/Accessories, etc. Discussions ~Part 1

[Urban Saboteur]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]We can only blame Hasbro so far. Personally, I think Hasbro should've taken a stronger stance and made the factories in China do the figures over.[/QUOTE]

I agree with that, especially if the product isn't meeting the advertisement's proclamations. I've heard so many mixed reviews on these I am not in a place to judge without seeing these for myself. One person says they are great another says they are lame because of rush jobs sloppy paint apps and gimpy knees.

If the figures are poorly constructed, then yes it would unsettle fans that they'd have to wait longer due to a put back on the release, (kind of like releasing console games) however despite this most fans would be pleased to know hasbro have addressed the problem and rather than rush them out they have hauled them back to change them and get the factory to get it right.

Course we are on the outside, we don't know what there budgets are for this line, don't know who's in control and don't know the full Situation.
All i know is that i've heard alot of people complain and alot of people are happy with them.
Guess we'll have to wait and see what happens next.
Rich

[Sonneilon]

Believe it or not, GI Joe toys actually have deadlines! The whole subject of the 'overly large' Beach Head is on the other boards. You guys really gotta check out that thread on JBL because it discusses how the Chinese factories will change up things on products and not ask. Seriously tho, if the product coming over is crap, then why is Hasbro letting it slide? Why don't they step up and have things redone, budget or not? Cuz in the end, the company loses consumer trust by allowing this stuff to end up on the shelves. Certainly, it's gotta be cheaper in the long run. *shrug*

[Sonneilon]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][SIZE=3][COLOR=Purple]John Warden is the new guy who seems to basically be in charge of most of the 25A stuff (at least the looks of it, etc).

Warden is NOT a fan of "updated looks".. he wants classic characters in classic uniforms. The "updated" Serpentor was not his idea, and by the time he was made aware of it, it was too late to change him back. This is apparently true for a few other figures and/or certain aspects of some of the figures.

There will be an additional wave at the very end of 2007.. so expect some 2008 stuff a little early.

According to Warden, Hasbro did NOT order any mid-forearm swivel joints on figures that did not have gloves (Duke, Flint, etc). They were all supposed to be wrist joints that the factory in China changed without authorization. True? not true? That's what he said. He plans to work many of the current problems out, & they are well aware of them (the mid-forearm joint, poor elbows on some figures, the "sitting problem", etc. Improvements won't likely show up before 2008 because the 2007 figs are more-less at the factory stage already.

Vehicles are being strongly considered, but don't hold your breath until the figure line is well established & running smoothly.

Warden absolutely wants to do both comic and toon characters... he pretty much confirmed it. He avoided confirming exact names, but there are very obvious ones that always come to mind.. Venom, etc.

It was actually Warden's idea to do the silver logo trooper because he liked the viper glider pilot.. & then the red logo's would be available in the 5-pack. When told that most fans would probably appreciate the red logo for the troopers, he said that he is a HUGE blueshirt/army builder fan & plans to basically have blueshirts available continuously.. similar to the SW clones/stormtroopers, etc. In other words, every year should see 1 or 2 new blueshirt release(s).

The black & gray Timber are supposed to be dead even at 50%-50%. he has no idea why the black is showing up as more rare right now, but suspects that as the figures come out, the 50-50 will become apparent.

He mentioned that Stalker will be a 50-50 variant too.. his camo colors inverted (similar to the 2 comic pack Stalkers, where the colors were reversed with the second Stalker).

Dwight is off of the Joe line now.. he's working on another line that Hasbro believes will be huge next year.

Beach Head's head is pretty big.. Warden directed the sculptor working on ti to make it smaller, but as they kept doing revisions, they ran out of time for the head change, so Warden was forced (Hasbro deadlines) to send Beach Head to the factory as-is.

Warden DID hint that if the line does well, he very badly wants to go back and re-do a few of the early figures (Duke, etc), however, capital for a re-do can only come from solid sales.. soooo... not sure what to expect. The re-do would mostly be about the corrected joints.

Warden is not a fan of painted weapons. He said that it takes multiple paint washes and a lot of money to do that. We'll likely not see many painted weapons after 2007, but this is a good thing (in Warden's opinion) because all the money saved on the painted weapons will go towards the actual figures, etc. They WILL, however, continue to get unique accessories, even though they won't be painted.


*whew*

That's about as much as I can remember from what AJ said.. hopefully when he gets back from the con, he'll chime in. [/COLOR] [/SIZE] [/FONT]

[jjsvipers]

wow awesome info thanks a lot i like all blk weapons anyway you can always paint them, i hope they make a trooper 6 pk, i think this new guy is doing well i like the look of the figures and if they update the functionality even better, i seen someone put recondo gloves on flint it looked great but i am going to try putting this dukes gloves on him if i ever find the 25th guys :(
http://www.yojoe.com/action/03/duke12.shtml ,
any one have this combo to try out and tell me how it looks/ works?

this launch reminds me of when the joes came out with the straight arms first and then went to swivel arms and the figures just got better and better.

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=jjsvipers]this launch reminds me of when the joes came out with the straight arms first and then went to swivel arms and the figures just got better and better.[/QUOTE]

Straight arms to swivel arms was an improvement, unfortunately I can't say the same about the move to the 25th ann figure style. :(

[jjsvipers]

im thinking about the next waves of 25th guys after reading the above news i am hoping they improve on these guys just comparing my hope to when the swivel arms came out it was such an improvement.

[Lava Boss]

Comicon 25th Anniversary Playing Cards (http://members.aol.com/thefirefly/temp/joe-cards.jpg)

That some use new artwork, that practically tells us these characters are coming for the 25th style line.

I never would've though HISS DRIVER would be made so soon.

Also, looks like they are gonna swamp this line with repaints.

[Outrider]

Hasbro issue cheap repaints? Surely not..... :rolleyes:

[Outrider]

Check out the link for a picture of the second 25th anniversary Cobra 5-pack on yojoe.com;

http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/08/images/2cobra5pk_lg.jpg

Pretty disappointing, I must say. Cheap-arsed repaints with a comic pack Gas Trooper head thrown in as a "Jet Pack Trooper". Hasbro must think we all love wasting money on trash when they offer up c.r.a.p. like this! :mad:

[Blowtorch]

[QUOTE=Outrider]Check out the link for a picture of the second 25th anniversary Cobra 5-pack on yojoe.com;

http://www.yojoe.com/magazine/2007/08/images/2cobra5pk_lg.jpg

Pretty disappointing, I must say. Cheap-arsed repaints with a comic pack Gas Trooper head thrown in as a "Jet Pack Trooper". Hasbro must think we all love wasting money on trash when they offer up c.r.a.p. like this! :mad:[/QUOTE]


Time of death 8/23 at 0222.

Didn't take long for repaints :mad:

[General Scarlett]

Personally, if these were done in the original 3 3/4" line, I'd be all over these figures............I love how the colors 'pop'

[Scarrviper]

I have to agree, that stormshadow and cobra commander are pathetic. At least the stinger driver makes SENSE ,yet he will never fit in a stinger :mad: . That cobra jump jet is interesting though.

[Ion]

Cobra Commander looks at least good - as for me. Storm Shadow has a small problem with Cobra on his face mask (that supposed to be a Cobra logo? ok, nvmd...), Grunts look... well... like bigger 3 3/4 figures - but I was always damn curious WHY on Earth they're equipped with Dragunov-like sniper rifles??? Have you seen any grunt running around and assaulting anything with a sniper rifle? Hasbro is weird.
And the jet pack trooper looks... I dunno - as for me more like for a Sgt Savage line...

Again - disappointing

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]saw these a few weeks ago. hated the idea of yet another commander, another stormy, hes outdoing snake's this time around. the troopers i can understand, because of army building. i really like the stinger driver, but im not touching this five, now if they had a bludd and the twins with 2 troopers it would have been worth it. how stupid are the to not realize that adding 3 new figures and 2 repaints would sell, but all 5 characters that have already been out... [/COLOR]

[Self-Modifier]

I'm not a fan of the Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow by any means. But I like the other three, especially since the trooper and air trooper are in comic book colors. I'll probably wind up picking this up if for no other reason than to add to my 25th Cobra forces.

Maybe I can do a head swap with a carded officer to make a comic book Cobra Officer...

[Prince Adam]

If Storm Shadow was teal like the Ninja Viper, I'd be all over the set. But now, the only one I really like is the Stinger Driver, and somewhat the Jet Pack Trooper. I would like more red symbol Troopers, but I'm not gonna sweat it if I have to get extra Commanders and Storm Shadows.

[Sonneilon]

It's been noted that Hasbro wants to push the Cobra Trooper mold as far as they can. Gotta make back some of that cash spent on doing all this. I'm not excited for the pack myself, but I'll still get it. These were released at the SanDiegoCon...

I like the Storm Shadow even if it is overkill.

Cobra Commander, bleh.

I'd rather see the Trooper w/ a black mask as a re-release to get him out to the kids and fans as opposed to scalpers.

Jump pack... Uhmmmmmm... Ok.

Stinger Driver. That mean a Stinger is in the works?

[Jay]

Two five-packs and one series of single-carded figures and they're already scraping the bottom of the barrel for repaint ideas.

Comic book Trooper: Why? And why so soon?

Jet Pack Trooper: Uhm... I can't understand the reasoning behind this. Were the CP gas mask troopers really THAT popular? :confused:

Stinger Driver: Useless without a Stinger.

Storm Shadow: The epitome of barrel bottom-scraping.

Cobra Commander: Not all that bad looking, but a third repaint so soon? That's pushing it...

[Lava Boss]

[QUOTE=Jay]
Jet Pack Trooper: Uhm... I can't understand the reasoning behind this. Were the CP gas mask troopers really THAT popular? :confused:
.[/QUOTE]

Must be, they played a huge role in the comic book (for one panel in one issue out of 155 issues). And I still see them at Toy R Us...(and I still buy them :o ).

The San Diego comic con showed a cobra officer helmet with the Jet Pack trooper, which implied that the gas mask helmet combo is removable, and then you could just make a comic book Cobra Officer. But I'm not sure Hasbro confirmed that.

The Storm Shadow repaint seems really lame because the Cobra on his mask and dragons on his legs are not detailed applications at all. (You can still find VvsV Storm Shadow at a Family Dollar near where I work!)

Really, if they insisted on including the Storm Shadow mold, they should've made it a Ninja Trooper/Viper or a black dragon ninja.

I sort of like the C.C., except the hand portion of the gaunlets being silver is stupid, just like when they made Imperial Procession Cobra Commander's lower arms all black. It looks bad.

But again, the big drawbacks to the set are 2 out of 5 figures are characters, making it a bad value for an army builder pack. $25 to $30 for 3 troopers, maybe four if you can stomach using Storm Shadow as one. Plus, the hip joints again :( . That Stinger driver can't even operate the vintage vehicle or hardly any vehicles. At best he can operate a motorcycle.

And I gotta say, all the Cobra trooper/officer variants and repaints in the past few years...they wait for a new format to give us a Stinger driver? :rolleyes:

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Scarrviper]At least the stinger driver makes SENSE ,yet he will never fit in a stinger :mad: .[/QUOTE]

Sums it all up, really. :rolleyes: One of the critcisms of the 25th line, even from those who liked the new figure construction, was that do we really need version 25 or 30 of certain characters, yet here we go again! Doesn't Hasbro listen to the people who buy their stuff? 3 versions of CC and Storm Shadow already? Hasbro's ignorance, and arrogant assumption that the fans are stupid, will be the death of the line.

[Captain Max]

The thing is,guys-this is an extra set that the Retailers wanted after the initial favorable response to the 25ths.

I guess I'm the only one here that likes it-more for me!

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=Captain Max]The thing is,guys-this is an extra set that the Retailers wanted after the initial favorable response to the 25ths.
I guess I'm the only one here that likes it-more for me![/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Red]
i hope it sells great, even though i spoke ill of it. if it sells, then that means more money for hasbro, which means more and more joes for us. i am not a collector, as in i dont have to have every figures made, only ones that i like and think i would use. so even if i wont be buying it, i hope many others do.
[/COLOR]

[Stormer]

Anyone else find it a bit annoying that they're already doing repaints to make figures that don't correspond with anything prior? Namely Jet Pack Trooper and this CC?

I realise this pack wasn't exactly planned far in advance but you'd think that they still wouldn't be so quick to contradict the whole "We've got 25 years of GI Joe history to draw from" line. And why is it that these days it's so important to constantly have "key" characters on the shelves but updating them? Do kids today REALLY want multiples of the same guy? Because GI Joe became a top-selling and long-lasting toy line without doing that; my first CC was the Battle Armor version and I was collecting for a few years before he came out. I got Snake Eyes v2 and didn't get another until 2001 bcause I didn't need one. Some of the more popular characters were still available and had their pics on the cardbacks when the next wave of figures came out but there was never a Snake Eyes, CC, SS AND Duke out at the same time. Masters Of The Universe didn't do too badly either, and that didn't have a new version of He-Man & Skeletor out with EVERY new wave...

Army-building seems like a no-brainer to make more sales without having to pay for new sculpts but no, they put who knows how many off buying multiple sets by making 2/5 of the figures a waste of time to anyone but completists even if you just buy the one set. So few characters available in the line and they're looking to get 3 versions of 2 of them out in stores at the same time...?

[Flatline]

MOST OF EVERYTHING EVERYBODY SAYS IS TRUE. SO YOU WHO LIKE IT WILL GET IT (OR TWO) ;) ... THOSE THAT DON'T SIMPLY WONT, AND THE LACK OF HASBRO GIVING A RATS @$$...... :confused: WELL IT'S SOMETHING WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH IN ARE OWN WAY.
NOUGH SAID!!.

[Sonneilon]

As I said before, Hasbro is trying to recoup costs on this 25thA endeavor of theirs. They are following the SW idealogy of doing mass Cobra Troops; same buck model, different variations. That's been stated by the guys at Hasbro at both ToyFair and SDCon.

Now, we all know that none of these figures will fit in vehicles but Hasbro has said that if the singles do well enough, they will do vehicles. And you can probably assume (safely or not) that the Big H will do NEW vehicles in the old style. Hopefully that means we won't get a repainted JvC Brawler w/ a 4-rocket racket on the back.


That reminds me... iirc, the boyz at Hasbro said that the 5-packs would be used for mad repaints and variations whereas they will push the single packs with actual characters. Which is why we'll see Zartan and Shipwreck in singles not 5-packs. And if you REALLY think about it, there ARE 3 army builders in that upcoming 5-pack. I wouldn't mind getting word of what the 2nd Joe 5'r will be.

[Self-Modifier]

[QUOTE=Lava Boss]The San Diego comic con showed a cobra officer helmet with the Jet Pack trooper, which implied that the gas mask helmet combo is removable, and then you could just make a comic book Cobra Officer. But I'm not sure Hasbro confirmed that.[/QUOTE]

Really? I was at the Con, and I didn't notice that! If they do it, that'll be very cool. I love the Comic Cobra Colors.


On another note, I'm continually amazed at the levels of negativity towards the 25th products on this board. I read Joecustoms a lot too, and the responses there, though they include some negativity, seem to be overwhelmingly positive for the most part.

I'm not trying to criticize anyone here, because we're obviously all entitled to our own opinions, and I respect that. I'm just observing that we seem to have all the "haters" centered here on this forum somehow.

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Self-Modifier]I'm not trying to criticize anyone here, because we're obviously all entitled to our own opinions, and I respect that. I'm just observing that we seem to have all the "haters" centered here on this forum somehow.[/QUOTE]

And fair enough too. I'm not a hater per se. If Hasbro bring out good stuff, I will buy it. The Stinger Driver looks half decent, but it's not worth the price of a 5-pack. I just think it's asking alot for us to spend our hard earned on half-arsed quick fix stuff like this. I understand G's point about Hasbro trying to recoup their outlay by getting as much as possible out of the new dies, but this is not the way to do it. The same old characters over and over gets tired very quickly. Fresh figures get my money, cheap version 30-something repaints don't. Simple! ;)

[Scarrviper]

Outrider took the words out of my mouth.

[General Jones]

I'm am going to put in a guess for the next Joe 5-pack

Blue dress Gung Ho
Roadblock V2
Snake Eyes V3
Ninja Force Scarlett
Skidmark ;)

[Stormer]

I wouldn't necessarily say I hate the 25th Ann. stuff, I've just been disappointed (and I loved what I saw when the first pics came out). The size/scale thing is the main detractor for me and I just haven't seen enough to convince me it's worth the expense to get some shipped to the UK -- besides the posing & weak joints issues, with this new set 2 out of 5 figures being of no use to me means I couldn't justify the cost just for the other 3, and they're characters I'd have been interested in army-building (comic-style trooper especially).

[bravo]

[QUOTE=General Jones]I'm am going to put in a guess for the next Joe 5-pack

Blue dress Gung Ho
Roadblock V2
Snake Eyes V3
Ninja Force Scarlett
Skidmark ;)[/QUOTE]
as far as i seen there is no 5 pack joes. all that were seen are on singel pack. - cobra. and i would love to see the Blue dress Gung Ho. :D

[bravo]

[QUOTE=lehsreh][COLOR=Red]
i hope it sells great, even though i spoke ill of it. if it sells, then that means more money for hasbro, which means more and more joes for us. i am not a collector, as in i dont have to have every figures made, only ones that i like and think i would use. so even if i wont be buying it, i hope many others do.
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lehsreh my friend, these joes sell as fast as starwars, my friend at wal-mart that runs the toys, she put up 4 boxs of the joes,with in 2 days, there gone, you may see C.C. or flint left. what gets me sooo fu#ken :mad: is that, these older guys that come in buy every thing, and i cant buy nothing while im on the clock, that had the joes,starwars,hotwheels, even the image figs that make the pitt, :mad: :mad: :mad:

[rds13601]

With the 25th line, has Hasbro said whether or not they will make vehicles?

[Outrider]

From what I've read around different sites, it is dependent on how well the figures sell. Good sales equals possible vehicles, poor sales means no chance of new vehicles.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]so true. i think we'll see them because the wal mart here or k-mart cant keep them. i asked today and they said the wear house is out, so they must be selling great. vehicles and playsets, something i never got as a kid because i had a low allowance.[/COLOR]

[General Scarlett]

As of this moment, Hasbro is not considering producing vehicles.

However, if/when the movie drops......the necessity of vehicles becomes somewhat of a given.........albeit in whatever form they choose. They might not exactly be what we remember.....but at least they'll be something!!

And remember, since the new line is a slight bigger than the original....the regular Joes will fit in....maybe a bit extra room, but more is better than less!!! ;)

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]And remember, since the new line is a slight bigger than the original....the regular Joes will fit in....maybe a bit extra room, but more is better than less!!! ;)[/QUOTE]

Considering normal Joes have trouble fitting into some of the older vehicles anyway, that might be a good thing. ;)

[Flatline]

I THINK THAT THEY SERIOUSLY HAVE TO CONSIDER THE VEHICLES. LIKE SCARLETT SAID WITH THE MOVIE ITS A GIVEN AND THE FACT THAT THEY ARE FIT FOR THE 25TH. THE OG'S WILL FIT FOR SURE. :cool:

[Prince Adam]

I'm really hoping for a Vamp. For a few reasons really...

1)It just scremes classic Joe!
2)Clutch
3) Repaint options. Stinger, Tan Vamp, that Cobra 4x4 thing that came w/ Vipra.

Other than that I could see 'em doing a Hiss.

[Prince Adam]

Come to think of it, a new GI Joe HQ playset would be great, but I'm afraid they'd ruin it with silly action features. You can just have playsets these days, they have to do something. :confused:

[yorktownjoe]

I only have Snake-Eyes and Storm Shadow of the 25th variety and I have been able to get Snake Eyes into some regular vehicles.

I have not yet taken pictures of him or Stormy in them, but I was thinking of taking a few to recreate the idea of their joint assault on Cobra Island back in issues 46-47. I pasted some YoJOE links to the vehicles that can accomodate 25th Snake Eyes.

ASP http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/84/asp/
Stellar Stilletto http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/88/stellarstiletto/
IMP http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/88/imp/
Thunderwing http://www.yojoe.com/vehicles/04/thunderwingjet/

Most of these favor "full length" poses or "slouching" instead of "sitting" which is the key issue with the 25th. But then again, how many of us could drive a vehicle with our legs locked at the knee and stetched all the way forward (a la old school vehicles and figures)?

Anyway, just rambling and sharing ideas since we don't have vehicles for them....YET!

[Invasor]

:D It would be great to see some new versions of them... :rolleyes:

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]ive stated in different threads that i never collected vehicles of playsets as a kid. being into dios now days i really, really need some or both. i hope we at least get a joe and cobra playset, trouble bubble, asp, tommahawk and a thunder machine. i really dont need much for my joes as i see them doing the attacking thus they would be in places that cobra has made it all but impossible to carry vehicles.[/COLOR]

[Sonneilon]

We know that the boyz at Hasbro has at least thought of it. But I get this funny idea that they are very expensive to produce and more a risk than single figures. 2008 seems to be in the air and IS dependent whether these initial 3 waves sell well. I can only assume they'd make vehicles for the drivers they have been releasing. It'd be retarded NOT to. What's the point of a HISS Driver or Stinger Driver if they don't have something to cruise in?

So, has anyone actually SEEN these figures warming the pegs? I mean, you'd see the OTHER eras sitting there but man, a case goes up and it's gone in a day or two. Shoot, maybe it's the scalpers who'll keep GI Joe alive! lol

[Captain Max]

They are definetly NOT peg-warming in my little town! I still can't find a Cobra Officer.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]as i said in another thread i went to wal mart tuesday and asked the worker when they would be getting another shipment. he told me that they had them ordered, but the warehouse was even out of stock.[/COLOR]

[Fantom]

Since the 25th Joes have hit the stores in my area I've had no problem finding the 5 packs. In fact, my local Freddy's had a sale and I was able to pick up the Cobra battle pack for $21.99. Not a bad price :)

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]don't know who has or hasn't saw them yet, but theres pics of the 25th crimson guard. this is one i myself have been dieing to see. bad thing, they even screwed him up. his head looks robotic. but he isn't out yet so they may fix this, they did stalker's color. heres the link in case you haven't saw hem yet.[/COLOR]

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=07_Joe_Con%2FHasbro%2F25th_Anniversary%2F&dispsize=600&start=0

[Swindle]

It isn't bad, but the mask is off.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]yeah, thats the only thing, but its a bad mistake. i guess if you have the later CG with the removeable mask you can use a duke head and use the mask. another bad note. first line of 08 there will be drum roll, another V1 snake eyes. but hey, he's black so i guess its ok. NOT! just to add. they speak of the movie, as american, not international. and aso talk about fixing the crotches. and yes, some new vehicles. well repaints, and the razor destro everyone seems to want[/COLOR]

[Scarrviper]

The good- removable shotgun on thigh :)

The bad- weird head sculpt and diaper crotch :( :mad:

The ugly- manboob syndrome. :eek: :confused:

[Urban Saboteur]

Good idea, pants execution. I'm not sure but i think both X-Factor contestants and hasbro workers are dillusional.. they have to be.. well theres another $5-$6 I've just saved for something better.
Can this figure sit down? :o

[Flint]

Thanks for the pics lehsreh!!! :)

[LordRaven]

hehehe....this figures are butter faced. Everything is awesome but 'er face. HA!

[gung ho]

i like the crimson guard, firefly and stalker but thats about it don't really like the rest of them

[Sonneilon]

I agree about the helmet design. Personally, I LOVE the DTC head. I could careless if the mask and helmet come off. I like the idea of faceless legions. THanks for the link, Big L. I'm too lazy to go TNI myself and wade thru all their crap to find the con info.



Uhmmmm, so which Stalker is going to be in the stores? Or are there going to be 2? I like the green/green combo (the one on the right) over the tan/green version.

[Outrider]

Hmmm, Hasbro screwing up another figure...no surprise there! :rolleyes:

[Jay]

Meh.

[Self-Modifier]

I'm not quite clear on what everyone dislikes about this Siegie. I never owned the original, nor did I get the DTC version, so I'm confused. All I have is the removable helmet version from the TRU six packs, and this looks pretty much just like that. The face looks like all the old Siegie's I've ever seen... Is it the way it juts out in profile, or what?

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]
Uhmmmm, so which Stalker is going to be in the stores? Or are there going to be 2? I like the green/green combo (the one on the right) over the tan/green version.[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=Red]

it is going to be the one on the right. the story goes that the paint was a mistake and hasbro had them repainted. so the one on the right will be the one we get. however as weve saw with the 2 packs im thinking well be seeing the glow version in a future comic 2 pack.[/COLOR]

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]news now that the 2 packs will be out in april with ripper and torch. although they do have reused parts, im still excited about these as im a die hard nok fan, and im guessing at least flatline will be also. ripper's jaws of life actually come apart and torch has a removable gas mask on his backpack. here are some pics.[/COLOR]

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also there is talk about a possible dr venom and billy mail away figures. also a figure that has been hinted around is, and ive saw a custom of this somewhere, crystal ball. not many fans will want this on joe dios, but myself ill want one as the one i ordered from ebay was joenapped from my mail box.depending on the reaction of the fans and also when the movie gets nearer there is a possibility of large scale vehicle playsets. one noted was the aircraft carrier, all depending on the movie and fan base however.


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[Sonneilon]

OMG! Those are awesome! Forget the nu skulpt versions, these rock! That Torch soooooo looks like Torch!

[gung ho]

ohhh those are cool them are now on my list of things to get

[Fisher]

I love the original three Noks, this makes me incredibly happy.

[sithviper]

I kinda like it, the Snow Job looking cool also.

[ender098]

You'd figure with the omnipotence ofthe 25th anny stuff they could fix Torch's lame hose...I guess it's nostalgic because it's just as frakked up as the v1's!

[Self-Modifier]

I don't even like the Dreadnoks and I'm psyched for these!!

[msu44]

Ok if the Aircraft Carrier is ever re-released, I'm saying it now ....I will buy at least two!!!!

[Flint]

RIPPER, TORCH, MAIL-IN DR. VENOM & POSSIBLY AN AIRCRAFT CARRIER, AWESOME NEWS!!!!!!! :D Thank-you lehsreh for all the Updates!!! :D

[Flint]

Thanks Again for the info. lehsreh!!! Your the Man!!! :D

[rds13601]

i'LL TAKE ANYTHING, JUST DON'T CANCEL THE LINE

[General Scarlett]

[QUOTE=rds13601]i'LL TAKE ANYTHING, JUST DON'T CANCEL THE LINE[/QUOTE]

Point. Match. Set. Game. ;)

[General Scarlett]

These definately do look like 'Noks!!!!!

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]Point. Match. Set. Game. ;)[/QUOTE]

[COLOR=Red]
im with you both. ive said before im just happy to have new 3 3/4 th. i understand that some people arent happy, but i dont think there all as bad as everyone thinks. and since im one of the people who didnt get all the joes when i was a kid and then the ones i did have got lost in an alternate dimension i really want the old ones to get some completion. even if they arent perfect, ill buy some just to keep the line going and hope they fix things. better, in my book, to have to ok joes then no joes at all for the next 10 years.[/COLOR]

[Outrider]

They look better than most of the other 25th stuff, but they are still the same basic flawed design underneath the gloss. No matter how nice they look, I still won't be tempted to buy them until Habro fixes the fundamental problems with this figure style. On a side note, it's cool to see my hometown on Torch's back! ;)

[Stormer]

So, what, there aren't any forearms they could use that don't have sculpted sleeves/cuffs? Unless Torch is supposed to be into freaky body-modification...?

[Fantom]

[QUOTE=Outrider]They look better than most of the other 25th stuff, but they are still the same basic flawed design underneath the gloss. No matter how nice they look, I still won't be tempted to buy them until Habro fixes the fundamental problems with this figure style. On a side note, it's cool to see my hometown on Torch's back! ;)[/QUOTE]

Man you gotta loosten up a bit on this new 25th stuff or you may just end up regretting your stuborness :)

The articulation is flawed, but damn if they don't look good. I'm with you on the old sculpt stuff, it is the default style for me, but the sculpting on these new figs makes up for any articulation flaws...it will get ironed out eventually as long as fans support it!

[Fantom]

I took a look at this fig from the Toy News International web site and it's not bad at all. The helmet is a little bit funky but this is a "in progress" shot and the helmet issue will more then likely be addressed. I will pic him up no matter how it turns out. C'mon...this is the Crimson Guard...if Hasbor don't fix it, anyone of us can with a simple head swap...

[Flatline]

:cool: HELL YEAH LEHSREH IM SMURFING SIKED!!!!!!

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Fantom]Man you gotta loosten up a bit on this new 25th stuff or you may just end up regretting your stuborness :) [/QUOTE]

Stubborn? Me? Never.... ;) I'll "loosen up" when the 25th figures "loosen up" :p

[Lava Boss]

Dr. Venom and Billy, too late really. Why? Because they should've been done in style with the vast 3 3/4" RAH line in the comic line a few years back. Now everything's a restart. And I get the feeling the 25th line will go on hiatus when Hasbro decides to concentrate on the movie line. If the movie gets made.

Nobody at the con bothered to ask the Hasbro peeps why they decided small GI JOE is now a 4.1" line instead of a 3 3/4" line.

[Stormer]

[QUOTE=Lava Boss]Nobody at the con bothered to ask the Hasbro peeps why they decided small GI JOE is now a 4.1" line instead of a 3 3/4" line.[/QUOTE]
This is why I haven't got any 25th figures, and why I'm not excited about previously-unmade characters since they won't work in my existing collection. Plus I find the idea of accurately recreating the original character designs (ie clothes) nice form one point of view, but I can't help feeling I've already got all the figures they've released. I'm sad that we'll not see DDP-style updates any more, keeping classic elements while updating them to amore modern, fresh style.

Basically, to me, short of the Club the 3.75" toy line I've collected has now finished and I don't have the money, space or desire to collect a brand new toy line that's just BASED on what I'm a fan of. I've never bought a 12" Snake Eyes, or an 8" one, and I'm not going to get a 4" one either just because he's wearing the same outfit as the 3.75" one I've already got.

I guess I know how a lot of fans felt when the new stuff started appearing in 2002, but at least Hasbro was mixing in old-sculpt figures and providing new versions of classic characters rather than outright replacement figures of them.

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Stormer]This is why I haven't got any 25th figures, and why I'm not excited about previously-unmade characters since they won't work in my existing collection. Plus I find the idea of accurately recreating the original character designs (ie clothes) nice form one point of view, but I can't help feeling I've already got all the figures they've released. I'm sad that we'll not see DDP-style updates any more, keeping classic elements while updating them to amore modern, fresh style.

Basically, to me, short of the Club the 3.75" toy line I've collected has now finished and I don't have the money, space or desire to collect a brand new toy line that's just BASED on what I'm a fan of. I've never bought a 12" Snake Eyes, or an 8" one, and I'm not going to get a 4" one either just because he's wearing the same outfit as the 3.75" one I've already got.

I guess I know how a lot of fans felt when the new stuff started appearing in 2002, but at least Hasbro was mixing in old-sculpt figures and providing new versions of classic characters rather than outright replacement figures of them.[/QUOTE]

Many a good point raised there, Stormer! I couldn't agree more.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]THATS LIKE I SAID, I UNDERSTAND THAT SOME PEOPLE HAVE ALMOST EVERY CHARACTER MADE, SO WHY BUY THEM. I DONT HAVE THEM ALL SO ILL GET THEM. I WILL NOT GET THE HOODED cc OR STORM SHADOW, EVEN THOUGH I DONT HAVE THE STORM SHADOW. I JUST WANT THE ONES I DONT HAVE OR GET ONES THAT I HAVE v1 OF BUT DONT WANT TO USE. AS FOR THE SIZE, I TOOK SOME PICS FOR MY DIO. I USED 25TH SNAKE EYES AND ZANDAR. ZANDAR IS EVERY BIT AS TALL AS SNAKE EYES, IN THE PICS HE LOOKS BIGGER BECAUSE OF THE BODY TYPE.[/COLOR]

[Scarrviper]

Ditto.

[Sonneilon]

You guys really think Hasbro would do something 'new' for the 25th?

I would say that fans who aren't jiggy with the 25A should wait a year when Hasbro starts doing other things. But the theory is, after 25A, then there'll most likely be movie-based toys. Whether that's a good thing or not, we'll see. There's already been word of how GI Joe will be played out movie-wise and for a lot of fans, it's not good.

I understand that the 25A aren't for everyone. But I love the updated sculpting myself, even if there's no o-ring. How I'll deal with these things for picture-taking and dios, I haven't figured out yet. But they are nice standing around on a shelf. :P

[Invasor]

:eek: :eek: :eek: Man these figures are amazing! Torch is my favorite Dreadnok! Thanks for the pics.

[msu44]

I posted this over in photos under Randy S's Wave 2 finds at Wal-Mart, so I thought I would post it here in the forums as well.


Hey Guys I use to work in the retail world....I use to be an Xbox rep and I was always in the stores....now I have my own company but that's besides the point, although I can go to the stores when I want too, he-he. My wife works for a major cosmetics company and calls on these stores daily and she's on the look out too for my Joes and I still get insider info on store workings.

The following is general tips...I live in Houston TX so the scheduling of deliveries may be different in your area....just ask when your stores usually get trucks in, and for Wal-Mart and Target ask when they usually get toys in....they have trucks a couple of times a week and toys aren't always on there, but at least once a week toys do come on the trucks. Mid to late Morning is generally the best time to go because they either stock overnight or early morning. Wal-Mart is going to a no back-stock system so when they get it in the back it's going out onto the floor. Target is already like this. Little to no back-stock.

Wal-Mart and Target, I believe as well, generates a re-order when an item is sold. When it goes through the register it generates a re-order, now whether they have it in their warehouse is another story(up to Hasbro to get it to them) but that's how it works.

Wal-mart generally gets a truck twice a week that contains toys...Wednesdays are the big day, if you can try in the mid to late morning that is usually your best bet.

For Target usually Saturday is their big stock out day. I was on the toy aisle this past Saturday and picked up the entire Wave 2 as he stocked it on the wall. It was around 10 am, again morning is your best bet.

Toys R us gets a couple of trucks each week but again go in the mid to late morning for your best chances to buy.

I would see collectors, actually ebay junkies who would buy everything on the shelf just to turn around and sell-it....would drive me nuts, especially if I was hunting something down.

Anyway, guys if you want something the online retailers are the best bet...just pre-order and you'll get it. I pre-order mine through Big Bad Toy Store, but after release I go through smalljoes and HTS as well.

Hope the retail tips helps.....sometimes you have to just be lucky.

****EDIT****

I forgot to mention K-mart, well we don't have K-Marts anymore in Houston, but they generally follow the same as Wal-Marts as far as replenishments, stock outs, and received shipment schedule.

[Flint]

Thanks For the Tips!!! :D

[General Scarlett]

Any and all tips are always appreciated..........

THANKS!

[Ion]

They rock!
Only problem is with the scale and articulation. Byt hey - I won't get any of those because thry don't import theme to Poland and I don't have cash to do it on my own.
Still - they look best when placed on a shelf :) And hell, thry look awesome!

[Self-Modifier]

No one's gonna say it...?

Okay, I will...

Now we know!

[General Jones]

And Knowing Is Half The Battle ;)

[sithviper]

Thanks for the tips. But, what about KB-Toys?

[msu44]

KB Toys...ah forgot about them, LOL....they are a little unique. They receive shipments multiple times a week...what's on the truck is anyones guess even the managers. This is because they receive the majority of their inventory via UPS.

They get it early morning and they stock out around mid to late morning. KB has closed a lot of stores nationwide due to competition to Wal-Mart, Toys R Us, and Target. That's why I didn't really mention them, plus I have always found them to be a dollar to two more expensive than the other stores. Like I said, a good portion of their stuff comes UPS since they are usually located in malls but there are some free standing stores, the may receive large truck shipments. So you can always ask them when the UPS guy usually comes.


Also another good place ot go is Tuesday Mornings...if you have them in your area check them out....they are a re-sale place. Basically they get the over stock or closeout/deleted items from Wal-Mart, Target, etc. That's where I found my Crimson helicopter for 10 bucks apiece a couple of years ago. You never know what they might have or when they have it.

[Sonneilon]

It's love or hate with the 25A figures, but man... Some of these figures are really cool. So for those who have 'em and can deal with 'em, who is your favorite figure so far???

Here's a list so far (I'm going off memory).

Duke
Snake Eyes v1
Scarlet
Roadblock
Gung Ho

Snake Eyes v2
Storm Shadow v2
Flint
Lady Jaye
Beach Head
Stalker
Shipwreck

Cobra Commander v1
Destro
Baroness
Cobra Trooper
Storm Shadow v1

Red Ninja
Zartan
Buzzer
Firefly
Cobra Commander v2 (hooded)
Cobra Commander v3
Cobra Officer
Cobra Trooper (silver chest)
Cobra Trooper (Yellow gear)
Cobra Air Trooper
Cobra Gas Trooper
Cobra Stinger Driver

[ender098]

Well, first off Hasbro need to get an ACTUAL supply of figures out! Hard to say what your favorite is when you can't get them anywhere....but, since I'm pretty much through getting figures (I HATE the 25th stuff) I's have to say my favorites that I DO have are;

1.) Pimp Daddy Destro (ok, I know Terrible choice for most, but he REALLY grew on me! LOL!)

2.) Serpentor - finally a 25th figure that has been updated and ISN'T a throwback to the 80's as far as outfit is concerned!!

3.) Snake eyes - I can't believe I'm saying this, but the way the 25th are created, figures like Snake eyes, Beachhead and Firefly benefit from the articulation. Figures like Duke and Flint look out of porportion and the articulation on the flesh parts SUCK!!!

[Sonneilon]

You guys KNOW I'm a nu skulpt fan, even if things somehow change for the worse. I like the 25A figures moreso that I love the idea of how the old outfits look now with nu skool sculpting skillz (or it's the technology of the molds or whatever...). With that said, there are so many that look and feel great (I won't discuss playability). I love the Flint figure. I love the Duke figure. Both Snake Eyes are great!

As it stands, I am finding myself loving the [COLOR=Purple][SIZE=5][FONT=Comic Sans MS]Beach Head [/FONT][/SIZE][/COLOR] figure most. I love the awesome detailing of the vest, the figure is great in itself and the weapon set are off the chart. His machine gun isn't JUST a rehash of that 1985 weapon. It's far cooler. A week ago, it was Firefly. And a few months ago, it would have been Zartan, Flint, Destro or Duke. Or Snake Eyes. Man... Too many choices!

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]destro, not pimpdaddy. finally a destro that really looks like he could kick some major butt. the troopers are a very close second. im more then happy with the 25th also. actually i would be on cloud 9 if i could ever find the smurfers[/COLOR]

[Self-Modifier]

I finally found Wave 2 of the single cards today., and I gotta say-- I love Beachhead too! Also, I think this is the best version of Lady Jaye we've ever seen. I like Destro, I love Storm-Shadow, and I think Roadblock is great except for the head.

However, above all others, my absolute favorite must be... Snake-Eyes version 2! The head sculpt is amazing, and he looks exactly as he did when he appeared in the comics and cartoon lo those many years ago. I'm sure a lot of folks may have said this long ago, but I'll say it here for the first time-- I'm now officially happy if we never receive another Snake-Eyes ever again.

[Outrider]

Like Frank, I'm a 25th hater, but of the ones I have, the 5-pack Snake Eyes is the best of a bad lot. And he will remain as number 1, because I won't be buying any more of them! ;)

[Flatline]

[QUOTE=lehsreh][COLOR=Red]destro, not pimpdaddy. finally a destro that really looks like he could kick some major butt. the troopers are a very close second. im more then happy with the 25th also. actually i would be on cloud 9 if i could ever find the smurfers[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

FROM WHAT I HAVE SO FAR HEIS THE BEST.

[Sonneilon]

I, for the most part, agree with Self Mod. These two Snake Eyes that are available, they ARE the bomb. But with Craig's recent Snake Eyes picture (the nite force or whatever version with big goggles), suddenly that SE don't look so bad. Or maybe he still DOES suck, it's just that Craig made him look good. :|

[Lava Boss]

I own 7 figures, but only 3 body molds! (Strange how that happened, but the singles are impossible to find here, and the five packs aren't that much easier. 25th stuff is being scalped ad naseum on Ebay.)

Favorite: Storm Shadow single carded, not happy about the tunic shoulders than limit some poses, but that was given from the photos.

Best looking: Hooded Cobra Commander, even with the stringy legs. Dark blue is Cobra Commander's best color. From mid torso joint up, this figure is great. :p

Most disappointing: Any of the troopers/officers, army builders are where articulation limits and stuff really start to show. Because as an army builder fan, I should be wanting to build armies of these guys, and as they are, I can't see any reason to. Wow! A Cobra vehicle trooper...who can't operate anything except maybe a motorcycle. :rolleyes: I don't like they helmets aren't painted on the inside. Or that they are all bald. Or that they are so tall compared to, oh, 25 years worth of other figures.

[Flint]

I only have a few of the 25th figures so far, but from what I've seen in pics, I'd have to say my favorites are Lady Jaye, Flint, Buzzer, Zartan, Red Ninja & Stalker!!! :D Now I just have to Find them in a store to put them to the test to see if my list stays the same!!! :)

[Da Talent]

its a toss up for me between firefly and the 5-pack snake eyes, not becuase of them persay, but bc they come with awesome stuff. thats the only reason I picked them up. I hate the figs, reason being they look so frickin cool sitting on my desk while I work, but they are terrible to actually play with. I only like these two because the gear they come with is awesome. thats one thing hasbro did right, the accessories are amazing and detailed, great to use on other figs and customs.

[Urban Saboteur]

Is this thread meant to be a joke? Your kidding right? :o
No come on.. this is a wind up? :confused: :p

[Red Sox]

The Cobra Trooper/Officer is my favorite by far. Just a great figure made all the better by being an army builder.

[viper08]

So far, mine is the Air Trooper!

[Captain Max]

Out of what I own-Joe and Cobra 5-Packs,Wave 1 minus Cobra Officer Wave 2 minus Serpentor my favorites are Hooded Cobra Commander and Lady Jaye.

Hooded CC just looks MEAN........like he really is the most dangerous man alive!

Lady Jaye is a great sculpt,very feminine.She poses well and the paint colors chosen look very realistic. :cool:

[Prince Adam]

Beachhead, but I gotta find the one with the fixed legs. 25th blows all that JvC and VvV crap outta the water. Looking forward to Destro v2 and the CG!

[Agent Viper]

Ok I don't own any at the moment but the onesd I do like the best are...

Firefly ( C'mon, I'm a FF fan anyway)
Beach Head got my hands on him cause my buddy has him
Single Pack Stormy wave 1
Single pack wave 1 SE
Single pack Cobra Officers
Single pack version 1 CC.

[Acantilado]

I only have the two 5-packs, and of them I think Snake-Eyes is absolutely amazing. I've only seen the rest in pictures, but IMO Snow Job will be the hit when it appears.

[yorktownjoe]

Right now it is Beach-Head, but I haven't seen Firefly firsthand yet...

[Acantilado]

Oh, yes, I forgot about Beach-Head :rolleyes:

[msu44]

Hey guys a quick question about this......I have looked all over and I have yet to see when these packs are going to be available. The Snake-Eyes and Ninja pack and the Cobra pack. Will it be before Christmas or after the new year...the same with the Target exclusive vehicles. I haven't seen when they will be released.

Anyone who went to the con did they say when we would see these? All info would be appreciated.

[Acantilado]

If I underestood well, they are to be released next year. Checked BigBad ToyStore, and they show a released date of january.

[msu44]

[QUOTE=Acantilado]If I underestood well, they are to be released next year. Checked BigBad ToyStore, and they show a released date of january.[/QUOTE]


I checked it out last night...those are the comic two packs, which I went ahead and pre-ordered, but I'm talking about the Toys R Us exclusive 5-packs....didn't see those on BBTS...are they on there?

[fightingswords]

spring '08 if memory serves me right

[Sonneilon]

I think I saw the pics on BBTS too. I'm not overly excited or even interested in 'em. Sure, it's cool that Hasbro is reusing molds to offset costs but man... Those Troopers don't do anything for me. I actually find the ninja more interesting but have no use for 'em.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]just in case some havent saw them here are some new images of the latest comic packs. im hyped about these. maybe even snake eyes and stormy. [/COLOR]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/frm00004.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/frm00003.jpg

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/frm00001.jpg
[COLOR=Red]
and in case some have missed the news. ray park will be playing snake eyes and Sienna Miller(whoever she is) will be playing the baroness.[/COLOR]

[General Scarlett]

Nice...........thank you for posting this up!! :cool:

[gogorobo]

i saw this earlier today and i am so glad that i preodered this set the crimson twins alone look so friggin awsome :D

[Prince Adam]

I'm stoked about the Crimson Twin set! And the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow are pretty cool too, although technically I think it's Zartan. I'm curious to see the Ace/Wild Weasle set that should be coming with these!

[gogorobo]

heres a question the trooper that comes with the guardsman is supposed to be scar-face but does anyone think that Hasbro sculpted hair on his head or is he going to share the same male pattern baldness as the rest of the troopers :D

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]im hoping there will be hair, i saw a few pics awhile back of troopers who had hair. but i think they were in the 5 pack, maybe im wrong.[/COLOR]

[Prince Adam]

[QUOTE=gogorobo]heres a question the trooper that comes with the guardsman is supposed to be scar-face but does anyone think that Hasbro sculpted hair on his head or is he going to share the same male pattern baldness as the rest of the troopers :D[/QUOTE]


It's possible he'll have a newsculpt head I guess. But if I didn't know better I'd swear that's a MaurauderInc AK-47. I think it's cool that the CG has the Fred head and I'd assume it's the same as the Cobra Commander from wave 6.

[Stormer]

Aw, crap... I'm gonna have to buy these to get the new Larry Hama-penned comics...

They don't even have fixed crotches -- hopefully they will by the time the production models are out!

[yorktownjoe]

[QUOTE=Prince Adam]I'm stoked about the Crimson Twin set! And the Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow are pretty cool too, although technically I think it's Zartan. I'm curious to see the Ace/Wild Weasle set that should be coming with these![/QUOTE]

I think you are right on all counts.

Is the single pack CG also going to have a removeable helmet/extra head? I didn't think so. And if I was guessing, in this comic pack, an extra head would be a lot cheaper than tooling a removeable helmet, and give the same effect.

For custom purposes, this allows us to pop the helmet head on the CG (a usable figure) and use the "face" head on another character... And the officer gives you another troop builder...

[sithviper]

Why is the CG coming with a M-1 Garand? Did they appear in the with them?

[gogorobo]

http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l75/breaker_011/Comic-Ace.jpg
picture of the Ace and Wildweasel comic pack this pic officially made my day :D

[Prince Adam]

Wow!!! I'm so glad I preordered these! This wave's gonna be hot!

[yorktownjoe]

[QUOTE=sithviper]Why is the CG coming with a M-1 Garand? Did they appear in the with them?[/QUOTE]

I was wondering the same thing. Maybe Dunham's in the CG's neighborhood was having a "vintage rifle sale."

But with Stalker picking up an MP-44 out of a museum, I suppose anything can happen! (I like WWII weapons, but more with 1:6 scale correct era guys).

Oh and WWII should not be confused with Wii for those under 21. ;)
Just kidding! Nice thread.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]thanx for the extra pics gogorobo. this is another comic pack im looking foward to. wild weasel looks great[/COLOR]

[gogorobo]

no prob, i wasn't able to get a bigger pic but it looks like either Wildweasels goggles are semi-transparent or removable ,still looks cool though :D

[rds13601]

When I get my 25th wave 1s I was not pleased as to how they were packaged. I felt the way Hasbro packed them caused excessive joint destruction. I would like to see a Mainframe, Dusty, Leatherneck, Major Bludd and the rest of the original 13 Joes. Even seeing Mangler's scowl would be appreciated. Not everyone loves the 25th. I am kind of so so on purchasing figures I already have and their kind of brittle. Yet my duty as a fan forces me to get them. Yet they give other fans a chance to collect their favorites that might have been hard for them to get. Would also like to see a 25th Falcon and Cobra eel. If they make a 25th Refrigerator Perry; I will definitely need a Prozac increase and more therapy. :cool:

[sithviper]

TNI has hi-res pics of Wave 3 of the Comic 2-Packs

http://i.toynewsi.com/g/index.php?mode=album&album=GIJoe%2F25th_Comic_2-Packs%2FWave_3&dispsize=800&start=0

Looks like the Crimson Twins have "mirrors" like the original 2-Pack had :)

[Lava Boss]

Someone goofed on the Ace/Wild Weasel pack...the issue #115 is "Counting Coup" not "Counting Coop".

[Prince Adam]

I'm really anxious to get these! All four look great, even the Snakes/Storm one. The Twins are my favorite though! And the mirror packaging is such a cool idea! :D

[viper08]

[QUOTE=Lava Boss]Someone goofed on the Ace/Wild Weasel pack...the issue #115 is "Counting Coup" not "Counting Coop".[/QUOTE]


Maybe the issue is about a new real estate scam?

LOL!

[Flint]

AWESOME Figures!!!! :) I Love All of them!!!!!! :D

[gogorobo]

have to say that i'm really looking forward to these upcoming packs

[Stormer]

I'm gonna end up buying these, purely for the new Larry Hama-written comics. I dread to think what it'll cost me to get them sent to the UK from whatever online stores end up having them.

So if anyone out there is gonna get them for the figures and doesn't actually want the comics, please let me know and maybe we can work something out...!

[Sonneilon]

Let me see how I feel about the comics. I preordered them from DNStoys.com.

[sgcaper]

Why is it whenever Hasbro poses figures for photos they can NEVER put the weapons in the hands properly. Look at the twins, they're holding their weapons by the clip!!!

I'll be picking these up as I am an absurd completist, besides I'd love to build my Cobra ranks more with the CC and Scarface figs.

[Sephron13]

Storm.Shadow over at JBL.com found this. Great find! All credit goes to him; I'm just spreading the love!

http://gijoeclub.com/comics08wave4.cfm

Discuss!! Copperhead, Red Star and more!! :eek:

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]that sux. i want copperhead and red star, but im not willing to ger yet another duke and shipwreck to get them. only hope they also come in single packs.[/COLOR]

[Self-Modifier]

[QUOTE=lehsreh][COLOR=Red]that sux. i want copperhead and red star, but im not willing to ger yet another duke and shipwreck to get them. only hope they also come in single packs.[/COLOR][/QUOTE]

Ahh, but you don't have to get another Duke to get Red Star! As soon as I saw him, one word came to mind-- Grunt! Just give him web gear from Snake-Eyes or "G.I. Joe Hawk" and he's ready to go!


P.S.: At the rate they keep unveiling these comic packs, I want to know how quickly they're supposed to be coming out. We just got wave 1 around here a week ago, with no sign of wave 2... And they've already unveiled two more waves!

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]that could work. i was thinking of using him as someone else anyway. now what about the extra shipwreck, somehow a cutter???[/COLOR]

[Acantilado]

Well, the last two comic pack waves are pretty good IMO. The Duke-Red Star is the inevitable weak point, but overall I'm liking them: Copperhead is awesome, and Shipwreck looks really cool.

[sgcaper]

I can not wait to get Firefly. The bag he comes with is HOT!!! Mag light, pliers, the details are amazing.

[yorktownjoe]

I looked at those comic packs and thought, hey, that's pretty good. The Duke could be customized into almost any of the original 13... I was thinking the same about Hawk. If I pick up a Hawk/Scarlett pack, what would I do with that Hawk when the eventual leather jacket hawk comes out? Time to customize!

But first, a rest from spending to recover ye 'olde finances... ;)

[Sonneilon]

I didn't know about these until just now! Holy cow! I almost wonder if THIS is the direction the 25A is going. Maybe they'll give up the singles idea and do the better priced 2-packs w/ comic!

I totally agree on the Duke/RedStar thang. Make him GRUNT!

[Outrider]

Forget the crappy figures, I might have to pick up a Firefly just for the accessories. The case is great and those goggles will make for an awesome custom Lowlight!! ;)

[Prince Adam]

Sweet!!!! I'm so anxious for Copperhead now!!! :D

[gogorobo]

it's funny when i first saw the Duke/Redstar comic pack i thought that was Hawk cause i don't remember Duke ever being in the OG fatigues

[Flatline]

I just found the first wave here in Orange County. I picked up two of the Hawk Scarlett packs so my boys could have a Hawk. Like Lehsreh said though I did'nt double on the Duke/C.C. or S.E./S.S. they dot need 3 of each in Play Doh colors and blues. :confused:

Plus I still have'nt found all of the '08 wave 1 single cards yet. :( I have the Snake Eyes , Flash , and Snow Job but thats it. Now I get the tease of the next wave of comic pack. S-L-O-W down Hasbro let me catch up...... :p

[Sonneilon]

You're ahead of me, Flatline. I haven't seen the Flash wave yet.

As for the 1st comic pack wave, I totally agree. I don't need those other packs. Hasbro DOES seem to be releasing these fast. We already know what Comic Pack wave4 is! Crazy! And yet, people are getting Comic Pack W2 already! I won't see mine for a few MONTHS!!!

[Self-Modifier]

I'm in the same boat as you, Sonn. I have yet to even see a sign of the Wave 1 '08 figures. They usually start hitting here a month or two after they've shown up everywhere else, so I'm not too worried yet... But another few weeks, and I'll be wondering if Hasbro forgot to send them to my area (or if I missed them somehow!).

[ender098]

Heck, last new thing I saw was a firefly and Beachhead single pack around December 16th.......even if I liked these new figures, I'd have to go get raped on ebay to get them....but Craig is right! I might just get some of them for their accessories!!!

[Prince Adam]

Just preordered a set from Bigbad. I'm really looking forward to these! Especially Copperhead! :D

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]cant wait for these. only one i wont be getting will be duke.[/COLOR]
http://gijoeclub.com/2008wave3.cfm

[Prince Adam]

These are so badass!!! Man I can't wait for these! :D

[gogorobo]

this line just keeps getting better, that Snake-Eyes is awsome but the coolest figure for me has gotta be Spirit, can.t wait for em!!

[Self-Modifier]

As I'd hoped, Duke is obviously based on the opening of G.I. Joe: The Movie. I just need a 1:18 scale Stature of Liberty to put him on top of.

Wild Bill looks good, though his head is a bit on the small side.

Spirit looks angry, but is still a nice update of the original, and the removable cartridges for his gun are pretty neat.

Snake-Eyes is not v4, but v3, which I never owned. I love that his knives appear to be removable.

HISS Driver is, just like the original, pretty lame. I might get one just to have, but all my HISSes are driven by Super Sonic Fighter Vipers (my Viper motor corps), so I really have no use for this guy.

The Viper is pretty awesome, though I wonder why he has no goggles. I'm guessing they're a separate piece that just wasn't ready when the pictures were taken. Or maybe Hasbro finally heard all the people asking "What's the point of goggles when you have a full face plate?" and completely did away with them...


...But wasn't Major Bludd supposed to be part of this wave too?!?

[snakeeater]

That Snake Eyes was the first one I got, so I wouldn't mind getting a 25th version, though I'm sure it will be released several times, so I may wait to pick it up. Also love the Viper.

Duke's too similar to the 5 pack so I'll pass on that.

[Prince Adam]

[QUOTE=snakeeater]That Snake Eyes was the first one I got, so I wouldn't mind getting a 25th version, though I'm sure it will be released several times, so I may wait to pick it up. Also love the Viper.

Duke's too similar to the 5 pack so I'll pass on that.[/QUOTE]


That was my first Snake Eyes too and I'm really pleased with how he came out. Hopefully we get Nightcreepers soon. I always liked sparing them off with v3 Snake Eyes. Seeing how well that came out makes me wish they'd waited to do v2. He'd look so much better with the proper legs and the wrist dart.

Anyway, Big Bad has these up for preorder. I took advantage of the Vipers being offered separately. Yeah the cost over twice as much but I got so sick of running around trying to find CGs. I'll shell out the extra $$$ and chock it up as time and gas money.

[Sonneilon]

There's been a lot of talk of taking that Duke figure and turning him into Grunt. Personally, I think the jetpack and the American flag are the selling point, in which, I have neither at this time! As for SE, it's nice they are doing a DIFFERENT SE as opposed to a repaint or whatever. STormy on the other hand is getting some VERY strange love. I mean, there's a SHIRTLESS stormy coming! However, both that Duke (if i bother) and SE will be MOC.

Wild Bill is the best, hands down. I'm impressed.

Spirit. Ok.

HISS Driver. I think he looks great. I never minded the old design or figure. But why's he single packed??? WHy isn't he going to be with the Target HISS to make it an even more awesome exclusive??? Did people buy a bunch of HISSes back in the day w/o a driver???

Viper. Absolutely wonderful. Perfect. Too bad we'll never see these on the shelves and they are TOO expensive to build. I'll stick with my VvV Vipers. But they are great. THIS'LL be MOC cuz what are we going to do with 1 VIPER???

[Acantilado]

Some details here and there lower the quality fot these figs, but still they are reeeeeally cool. The Viper looks sa bity strange on the helmet, can't explain what is it, but it's a bit like the CG with his helmet.
Snake-Eyes v3 was too my first Snake-Eyes, but still everybody could have done without two of the previous versions, wich could have been replaced by this one from the beggining.

[Lava Boss]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon] HISS Driver. I think he looks great. I never minded the old design or figure. But why's he single packed??? WHy isn't he going to be with the Target HISS to make it an even more awesome exclusive??? Did people buy a bunch of HISSes back in the day w/o a driver???

[/QUOTE]

More use of the new tooling by making HISS driver single carded, i.e. higher production run than the Target Hiss. Plus fans are "forced" to buy two seperate items.

There's plenty of driverless vehicles out there (why limit the driver to just Hiss tanks?). I'd be loving the opportunity to buy additional armor crewman...if they were 3 3/4" Heck, I might get them for the DTC Hiss...if they fit and I feel like it.

I don't like the collar much. Not sure why they did it on Flash to begin with.

[gung ho]

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/default.cfm?page=News/Item&newsid=A7FD4BAC-D56F-E112-45EC48DE62C3858F

looking forward to the guys

[sithviper]

I see they fixed Flint, now if it were in the original colors also :rolleyes:

[Prince Adam]

Snakes looks neat and Roadblock looks pretty cool too. Not really interested in the Python Patrol and Tiger Force figures, although I think they look ike great repaints. Baroness and CC are pretty meh, and I really don't like Major Bludd. The re-used Zartan sculpt just doesn't work for me at all.

[Sonneilon]

Crap in a hat. These were sneaked on us a few days ago ala another site. We were HOPING that Hasbro might he doing some sort of cartoon 5-pack cuz Cobra Commander and Baroness example that the best. The only figures of true interest is Major Bludd with Roadblock v2 loosely behind that. But I can see using the v2 more than the v1 simply cuz of the vest. Pretty pathetic wave and at least I'll save money by not buying 2 of each.

[Self-Modifier]

I'll pick up Flint because the Tiger Force color scheme has always been closer to his cartoon appearance than his original colors.

I'm getting Cobra Commander for that silver stripe on top of his helmet. Yeah, it sounds silly, but that's a big deal to me, and it looks better than the stripe I added to my five-pack CC.

I'll get Baroness to swap her head onto the five-pack version.

I've always liked '86 Roadblock, so I'll likely get him as well.

Of course I plan to get Major Bludd, even if he is just a Zartan repaint with a new arm and head. I actually think this mold looks better for Bludd than for Zartan anyway.

I could care less about anything Python Patrol-related, so I'm definitely passing on that guy.

Of course, all of this is assuming they actually show up in my area!! I still have yet to find the Flash/Snow-Job/Destro wave, and the wave 2 comic packs!!!!!

[Sonneilon]

[QUOTE=Self-Modifier]
Of course, all of this is assuming they actually show up in my area!! I still have yet to find the Flash/Snow-Job/Destro wave, and the wave 2 comic packs!!!!![/QUOTE]

I found Flash and that was it. Then we were back to 2007 Wave4; the 5-pack in singles. And even then, it was missing Snake Eyes and the Air Trooper. lol

[Self-Modifier]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]I found Flash and that was it. Then we were back to 2007 Wave4; the 5-pack in singles. And even then, it was missing Snake Eyes and the Air Trooper. lol[/QUOTE]

I've never even seen the five-pack singles!

[vader9900]

[QUOTE=Self-Modifier]I've never even seen the five-pack singles![/QUOTE]
My WalMart here JUST put up pegs for the 25th figures this week, they were still empty as of last night. TRU had 1 Lady Jaye, Target had a Shipwreck & hooded CC. I can't find anything here! :mad:

[DaveCW2]

Snake Eyes - I don't know much about GI Joe comic lore, but he looks good, so I'll probably grab 'im.

Roadblock - He won't be my default, but I can definitely see using him.

PP Cobra Officer - Right now he's a pass, but I guess it depends on how much more TF and PP come out.

Baroness - An EASY pass.

TF Flint - They fixed him! I wish they'd fixed his crotch, though. Here's hopin' for a Flint (proper 1985 toy colors with the Tiger Force arms) / Lady Jaye (hatless) comic pack!

Cobra Commander - I feel like a sucker, but I really want that white stripe :D

Major Bludd: Too important NOT to get.

And THAT, ladies and gentlemen... is one person's opinion.

Have fun, all!!!

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]Crap in a hat......Pretty pathetic wave.....[/QUOTE]

You all know I wouldn't have bought them anyway, but is Hasbro serious? Is that the best they can do? I feel insulted, and I don't even like the 25th anniversary stuff! Heck, even if those figures were ARAH style, I wouldn't touch 'em! :rolleyes:

[ender098]

I will say this.....I may pick up that snake eyes, if only out of morbid curiousity!

[Swindle]

Major Bludd is a huge disappointment.

I feel like a sucker, but CC is a must buy for the stripe and the toon accessory.

The rest are not worth buying.

Hasbro really needs to just make a totally new Baroness.

[Sonneilon]

[QUOTE=ender098]I will say this.....I may pick up that snake eyes, if only out of morbid curiousity![/QUOTE]

What the frak are you saying, man??? It's the outfit based on the early issues of the Marvel comic, when the crew are hunting Kwinn in the arctic. I'm surprised nobody has said anything about the skirt issue with snake eyes. Surely you guys noticed. And the question is, can he sit down???

[Prince Adam]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]What the frak are you saying, man??? It's the outfit based on the early issues of the Marvel comic, when the crew are hunting Kwinn in the arctic. I'm surprised nobody has said anything about the skirt issue with snake eyes. Surely you guys noticed. And the question is, can he sit down???[/QUOTE]


From the looks of it he's got the Snowjob body, the "skirt" is removeable and he sits perfectly. I really like the figure...But where the hell is Kwinn. Maybe there's a Kwinn/Dr. Venom comic pack coming, but I doubt the big "H" thinks that pair will sell themselves.

[rds13601]

Viper looks good!!

[frk525]

So I was checking TNI today and found a link to the new Senior Ranking Officers 3-packs. Looks like we're getting Sgt. Grunt and General Hawk, as well as the Crimson Guard Officer with a Santa Claus Cobra Commander (not actual name of figure). So check 'em out.

http://gijoeclub.com/2008tru-sets.cfm

[Flatline]

:eek: MORE COBRA COMMANDERS ??? GOOD TO HAVE GRUNT AND THE CRIMSON OFFICER IS KINDA COOL :rolleyes:

[Sonneilon]

[FONT=Comic Sans MS][COLOR=DarkRed][SIZE=7]WHAT THE FRAK IS HASBRO DOING???[/SIZE][/COLOR][/FONT]

Ok, I'm cool w/ the 25A. I'm even cool with repaints, re-releases, new figures, etc. BUT they are gonna FLOOD the market with all this stuff! As people here will quickly say, ANOTHER DUKE? ANOTHER CC? Another (insert whatever you want)??? It's kinda bogus. As Anakin said, "It's overkill, master." And that's what I'm feeling. We just got the latest photos of the waves, the future 5 packs and now these rather neat looking, but WTF 3 packs... I'm gonna wonder what's gonna be shown at Toyfair.

With all that in mind, the 1st officer pack looks pretty neat. I like the variation on the Hawk figure and we get Grunt. Good enough for me. If I get it, maybe I'll send a bro the Duke figure. Too bad Grunt's head is so small (as opposed to Breaker's big noggin. Might need to have repaint that Duke head afterall!)

The Cobra pack... Officers? Looks like Cobra COmmander and 2 CGs to me. Poor Tomax and Xamot. Getting the shaft.

And the last pack... Whoa... That looks pretty cool, but certainly, impossible to build. What are you gonna do with a plethora of Officers and CCs? Now if they did an Officer and 2 Troopers, dewd. Still wouldn't fall for it tho. :p

[Outrider]

....Yawn....more repaints?.....I'm so glad I'm not wasting money on this insulting drivel. :rolleyes:

[Lava Boss]

Red Cobra Commander...a new version of a release from 2005! Wow, let the nostalgia roll. :rolleyes:

Hawk and Duke Hybrid figure...they've mutated into one being. "Hey, let's stick Hawk's head on Duke." Alright. What's next, repaining Flint to become Falcon? Probably (would've been more creative than Duke again).

Ugly gold masked CG.

That and they never fixed the crotches on Cobra trooper/officer, Duke or Cobra Commander. Which precludes me from seriously considering the sets.

[Sonneilon]

Forcasted figures for the future. So 'wonderful' that this stuff is leaked BEFORE Toyfair. So much for the true element of surprise. Please note that you can take THIS as speculation or rumor. Taken from XHairs of HISSTANK ala the JBL.

[SIZE=3]
[COLOR=Purple]


From hisstank.com:

Thanks to Board Member xhairs, we now have an unconfirmed list of upcoming single carded figures & comic packs.

Check it out:


Quote:
wave 9
653569391274 Zap
653569391275 Covergirl
653569391277 Snakeeyes v4
653569391278 Alley Viper
653569391280 Dr. Mindbender
653569391273 Scrap Iron

2packs
653569399471 Dusty-Mangler SM
653569399469 Scarface-Dr Venom

wave10
653569391279 Mainframe
653569391272 Hardball
653569391270 Rock n Roll v2
653569391271 Iron Granadier
653569391281 Serpentor v1
653569391276 Zarana

2packs
653569399470 Kwinn- Snake Eyes
653569399473 Torpedo-Eels

[/COLOR][/SIZE]









Just for note, apparently Hasbro said that sub-teams weren't gonna be used. BUT isn't NiteWatch a sub-team? TigerForce Flint has been revealed BUT Hasbro coulda been trained in basic psychology. ie; the whole TIGER FORCE isn't done OR TIGER FORCE is NOT in a 5-pack or whatever. ALL fans need to be aware of semantics and the wording of questions. Surely, the Hasbro guys listen carefully and answer in a ways that piss off, but they ARE answering what has been asked.

[yorktownjoe]

I did see a photo of Torpedo in a Toy magazine at Barnes & Noble this week. But it was a thumbnail size pic of artwork rather than glimpse of the fig.

So we are getting Hardball and Mangler before Recondo... Hmm.

Okay, I'm predjudice on that one. :eek: ;)

Anyway, I would be happy to see Dr. Venom. I thought of making customs with a White labcoat Mindbender, but I never picked one up. And it would be nice to be able to pick up Scar-Face in a separate pack that won't be immediately ripped off the shelves by every troop builder in the state. The removeable head CG/ Scar-Face comic pack his piqed my interest the most. Although a battle damaged Snake-Eyes would be interesting, at least to see...

Wow, I'm off topic a bit. Thanks for spreading rumors!

[gogorobo]

well if any of these rumors are true it's nice to see that we might get all of the original joes done, also getting Dr. Venom would be awsome

[Swindle]

I so want this list to be true, but I have my doubts.

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]i saw this over on hisstank. i dont think all of these are true, i wish i did, but i dont. hasbro said no to cover girl, but they did with3 tiger force too. the dr venom is something they said they had thought about.[/COLOR]

[Sonneilon]

As someone mentioned on the JBL, notice that there are NO CORE members in these supposed waves. Therefore, the guys who have been in the game for awhile suspect that these waves are totally bogus. But then, maybe this is just a list of characters to come and haven't been assigned to specific waves. *shrug* OR the CORE will be seeing other avenues of release, like the Officer 3Packs.

[Lava Boss]

Some people doubt Dr. Venom and Mangler, but Hard Master is rumoured and they believed that.

Really, rumour source snobbery thing going on. Last year some one listed what amounted to waves 1 and 2 of the 25th single packs and got shot down because "there's no way they'd make Buzzer and Serpentor before Duke and Cobra Commander." That was before we knew the first 10 figures were in five packs.

Also, Hardball seems odd, but since Hasbro's been reusing parts galore, Hardball would be maybe a new head and maybe new arms. I find it much stranger they've made 1987 Cobra Commander, all new molds, as well as making 1988 Destro so soon. And they made a new head for Red Ninja before making new heads and releasing recognizable 1982 Joes.

Not matter what, any rumor list is just that.

[Prince Adam]

I'm pretty excited about these lists. Given they may not be more than that. I thought Scarface was coming with the CG in the 3rd comic pack wave though. Anyway, I hope they single pack those Eels rather than sell via two pack. And I'm with Joe, where the hell is Recondo!!! :mad:

[yorktownjoe]

[QUOTE=Prince Adam]I'm pretty excited about these lists. Given they may not be more than that. I thought Scarface was coming with the CG in the 3rd comic pack wave though. Anyway, I hope they single pack those Eels rather than sell via two pack. And I'm with Joe, where the hell is Recondo!!! :mad:[/QUOTE]

Maybe they realized they can't top version 1 of Daniel LeClair... ;) But I would pay for 25th version with a removeable boonie...

[rds13601]

Just saw pictures from toyfair with Vamp I and trouble bubble. Looked good. Didn't see an Awe striker. Liked the lady jaye figure and baroness in red scuba gear. What do u guys think.

[Urban Saboteur]

I'm disappointed by what has been on offer on the 25th.
When fans asked for vehicles, i'd of hoped Hasbro could of done something a little bit.. well.. different.
This just seems like a complete relaunch, they haven't really done anything yet to impress me. :(

[rds13601]

Since I've been a customer of Hasbro for 24 years I would like to see them make SNAKE armor like that used in the first GI Joe Transformers crossover series comic by Image now Devil's Due. I would like to see a Stinger with more firepower, an Awe striker and no Cobra La anything. Would like to see a Stun vehicle that splits in half like the comic version by devil's due. How bout a CH47 Chinook helicopter with some variations to make it GI JOe in woodland camoflauge. The grip on the 25th figures I would like to see improved so they can hold a variety of weapons. Need to have Mainframe with goggles, SCi Fi with green but instead of silver put black where the silver parts of his uniform are. Also must have a Bazooka and Mutt figure with Kevlar helmet and not that black one he has. Must make the complete original October Guard with Daina looking like she did in Yearbook2 by Marvel. A BTR-70 Russian troop carrier like the one in the Yearbook would rule. Footloose and Dusty plus Mercer would be good too.Or how bout a V-22 Osprey tilt rotor troop carrier.What do you guys think?

[battlewagon]

[QUOTE=rds13601]Or how bout a V-22 Osprey tilt rotor troop carrier.What do you guys think?[/QUOTE]

well Chap Mei has an Osprey and it's HUGE! it's perfect for transporting vehicles and troops, only one problem -- it's rare in the U.S.

I hope Hasbro re-releases the cobra ferrets and stingers. I'm glad the RAM is coming soon with updated paint apps.

[yorktownjoe]

I thought I read something here or at Hisstank.com or on another forum about 25A Gung-Ho's legs being updated and better than the original 5 pack releases with "floppy-leg syndrome."

I have seen some single cards popping up at retail, and I wonder if anyone can confirm or deny any improvements.

Thanks!

[General Scarlett]

Check this thread out from JBL........


http://joebattlelines.com/phpBB3/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=4468

I think you might get some of the info you're searching for. As far as I can remember, there is a fix-or it is fixed.....I kind of stopped reading it after the 2nd page....... :rolleyes:

[sithviper]

I have one of each loose, and the legs on the single pack GH are working better than the one I got in the 5pack. Also they narrowed the crotch on him.

[yorktownjoe]

Thanks. The ability to reasonably sit down and poseability was what I was checking. Those early pictures posted with his leg dangling off the stretcher and Doc indicating there was nothing he could do is what I'm trying to avoid.


Now by the time I get back to the store, they'll probably be cleared out.

Thanks Gen Scarlett and SithViper!

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]just though i would throw these up so everyone can compare the old vehicles vs the new ones. personally i think the only one that stands up to the new 25th would be the trubble bubble, the hiss is close.the old one is first and then the new one.[/COLOR]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldvamp.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/Vamp.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldram.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/Ram.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldhiss.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/HISS.jpg

[lehsreh]

http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldflightpod.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/flightpod.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldarmadillo.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/Armadilla.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/oldairchariot.jpg
http://i220.photobucket.com/albums/dd173/GI_smurf/airchariot.jpg

[Sonneilon]

Thanks for doing this. I didn't realize that Hasbro had done so many mods to 'em. I'm still kinda iffy on the vehicle only because those are the vehicles I'd like or prefer.

[ToneGunsRevisited]

From the vehicles new or old, i just like the HISS, VAMP, but the RAM received a welcome improvement and so does the VAMP. The HISS, he is the same IMO.

So if I could, I would buy a new VAMP, the colors are better, the little new details made an improvement. The RAM looks better with the new gatling and colors too.

[General Scarlett]

I think they all look really good......except Serpentor's Chariot.....

The new 'duller' coloring on the vehicles is very reflective of the modern military scheme, so that plays very well.

Additionally, the 'added touches' on them really makes them POP....and I love the cooler lines coming out of the Trubble Bubble..... :cool:


Serpentor's chariot, to me, just looks really like a plastic-y toy....I prefer the original......


Nice job on posting these up!!

[gogorobo]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]I think they all look really good......except Serpentor's Chariot.....

The new 'duller' coloring on the vehicles is very reflective of the modern military scheme, so that plays very well.

Additionally, the 'added touches' on them really makes them POP....and I love the cooler lines coming out of the Trubble Bubble..... :cool:


Serpentor's chariot, to me, just looks really like a plastic-y toy....I prefer the original......


Nice job on posting these up!![/QUOTE]

couldn't agree with ya more GS :D

[silentdusty]

I like that they have used the original molds, and I also like the new additions on the vehicles, now this is a 25th product I could buy. Does anyone know when they will be available?

[Flatline]

all The Added Details And Updates Like Hoses And Better Cannos I Would Say I Prrefer The Newer Vehicles This Is A Great Post Lehsreh

[LordRaven]

Flight Pods!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fightingswords]

[QUOTE=silentdusty] Does anyone know when they will be available?[/QUOTE]
I belive they are slated for a June release

[Outrider]

These are the only good things to come out of the 25th line...... ;)

[Tracker]

Can't wait or June. The added bits and details will make them good along side BBI,FoV, and 21 century toys vehicals.

[Rambo]

[QUOTE=Outrider]These are the only good things to come out of the 25th line...... ;)[/QUOTE]

Because they don't need 25A figures!! :D


At least the vehicles dont use o-rings.

[ender098]

I was in a TRU the other day and I saw they had some of the new comic Two packs. I heard how everyone was going ga-ga over the comic two pack Fred/Crimson guard that came with the scarface trooper. I looked at the package and noticed the Crimsons guard had a Neo Viper commander head on him.

"How Cheesy" I thought. I could have sworn they had a head and a helmet. So I looked at the bottom of the package and ...nothing. Then my wife noticed that in the bubble packaging there were two holes where there should have been a helmet and backpack. She reach down to the bottom of the display where there was a complete one and showed me. It didn't astound me that someone would steal his head and helmet, but to put on a head from a Neo Viper Commander? WTF? Now, here's TRU trying to sell this as a complete set, and because some dillweed went and swapped heads, it will probably get sold to some poor unsuspecting kid.

I'm thinking maybe someone bought this, took it home and did that to use the head/helmet on their 25th single pack CG and brought the doctored one back. But why not just pop the 25th CG head on? Doesn't it fit in the bubble pack? Has anyone else seen anything this strange?

[GoCards]

Yeah, I've seen that done to Star Wars figures lately. People swapping older figures in newer packages. Like you said, some poor kid will buy it thinking they got a variation. It sucks and it's just plain wrong.

[Sonneilon]

The JBL is having all sorts of sightings of this sort of things now. Most people want the DOC sticker but are fooling around with the figures too.

[gogorobo]

i saw someone on ebay trying to sell a swapped out pack saying it was ultra rare :confused: i feel sorry for the person who buys this without knowing any better

[General Scarlett]

The levels of assininity that some people display is disgusting.......but I'm not that shocked by it anymore.......I deal with it far too often. :rolleyes:

[yorktownjoe]

Well Outrider and other non-25th fans will enjoy these I think. I think if the VAMP is roomy enough for 25th, then ARAH should be able to see through the window. I love the my original VAMP, but it is hard for Clutch to see through the window...

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]The levels of assininity that some people display is disgusting.......but I'm not that shocked by it anymore.......I deal with it far too often. :rolleyes:[/QUOTE]

Unfortunately behaviour like this is all too common now. It is a sad sign of the times, I'm afraid. :(

[vader9900]

This is nothing new, when the 2004 VOTC Stormtroopers came out, there were tons of them returned with the POTF Stormtrooper in there. I was at the DOLLAR Store & found several single pack figures with holes poked through the back & all the accessories removed, on $1 figures! I am suprised you all aren't finding all kinds of VvV figures in 25th packaging. Maybe with the cost of gas it is just cheaper now to buy the figure & not make a 2nd trip to scam the next guy.

[silencer]

I bought a potj snowspeeder when they came out several years ago and someone had switched the dead dak in the back for the first release of biggs. I took it back and got a replacement, ...weird and sad that someone would do this.

[rds13601]

3 packs are available on ebay for 25th figures. They are a toys r us exclusive not available online at T@ R They include a Crimson pack, with red CC and Crimson officer, A Gi Joe Pack with Grunt figure ,Duke and Hawk and regular Cobra Commander with two blue cobra troopers. Look on Ebay for senior rank officers for 25th search. Cost is bout 30 bucks without shipping. Cheaper if you went to your local Toys R Us store and looked.

[General Scarlett]

Here it is..........get to voting!!!

[SIZE=3]Just when you thought the amazing 25th Anniversary G.I. JOE action figure collection had ended...along comes the new fan-generated Hall of
Heroes!

In celebration of over 25 years of G.I. JOE VS. COBRA, Hasbro is creating the Hall of Heroes single-carded 3-3/4-inch figures.

Starting today, April 15th, Hasbro�s 25th Anniversary line of G.I. JOE
figures will be posted on http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/ , where fans will be able to vote for their favorites. All 62 single-carded 3-3/4-inch figures released
through 2008 will be eligible for the vote.

The ten figures with the most votes through May 12th will be announced
at the G.I. JOE Convention in Dallas (June 27-29). These top ten figures
will be released in spring 2009 like you�ve never seen them before * with
unique deco and commemorative packaging!

The figures battling for a position in the Hall of Heroes are:

1 Storm Shadow in grey camo
2 Snake Eyes and Timber
3 Cobra Officer
4 Cobra Commander with hood
5 Flint
6 Serpentor
7 Cobra Trooper
8 Lady Jaye
9 Buzzer
10 Beachhead
11 Zartan
12 Shipwreck
13 Sgt. Stalker
14 Red Ninja
15 Firefly
16 Cobra Commander with helmet
17 White Storm Shadow
18 Gung-Ho
19 Scarlett
20 Destro
21 Roadblock
22 Cobra Air Trooper
23 Duke
24 Snake Eyes in all black
25 Sgt. Flash
26 Destro with blade
27 Snow Job
28 Crimson Guard
29 Wild Bill
30 Armored Cobra Commander
31 Sgt. Rock 'n Roll
32 Lt. Torpedo
33 Duke with jetpack and flag
34 H.I.S.S. Driver
35 Cobra Viper
36 Spirit Iron-Knife
37 Snake Eyes with butterfly knife
38 Major Bludd
39 Flint Tiger Force
40 Arctic Snake Eyes
41 City Assault Roadblock
42 Cobra Commander with striped helmet
43 Cobra Officer Night Force
44 Baroness in blue uniform
45 G.I. Joe Hawk
46 Sgt. Bazooka
47 Barbecue
47 Storm Shadow in black
48 Snow Serpent
49 B.A.T.
51 Duke Tiger Force
52 Cobra Wraith
53 Mutt & Junkyard
54 Cobra Para-Vipers
55 Cobra Bazooka Trooper
56 Cobra Croc Master
57 Pilot Scarlett
58 Specialist Trakker
59 Sgt. Airborne
60 Cobra Eel
61 Swamp Zartan
62 Flint in Cobra gear



Thank you for your support!

The Hasbro G.I. JOE Team[/SIZE]

[KamikazeGrrl]

Scarlett,how are we supposed to vote? :confused:

Do we pick one each?

Thanx!

-Nikki ^_^

[General Scarlett]

[QUOTE=KamikazeGrrl]Scarlett,how are we supposed to vote? :confused:

Do we pick one each?

Thanx!

-Nikki ^_^[/QUOTE]

I'm sorry, I'm at work right now.....so I can't really do all the 'surfing' I'd like to.

But if you click on the link, just check it out the site!! If you come across anything, post it up for the group to know....or send me a PM about it and I'll figure it out!!


How's that?

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=KamikazeGrrl]Scarlett,how are we supposed to vote? :confused:
Do we pick one each?

Thanx!
-Nikki ^_^[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=Red]
i havent actually voted yet, but as i was going through the process early this morning it was letting me pick more then one. i think when/if we all vote, we should try to get a character we know we wont be getting any others of. we know well still have tons of snake eyes, storm shadows, cobra commanders and dukes. we have a few hawks, there is already confirmed to fix flint with gloves, were supposed to get another rock n roll. i say lets vote on characters like Beachhead, Zartan, Sgt. Stalker, Gung-Ho, Sgt. Flash, Spirit Iron-Knife or Major Bludd. [/COLOR]

[lehsreh]

[COLOR=Red]ok, i just did it. you are allowed 10 votes.[/COLOR]

[KamikazeGrrl]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]I'm sorry, I'm at work right now.....so I can't really do all the 'surfing' I'd like to.

But if you click on the link, just check it out the site!! If you come across anything, post it up for the group to know....or send me a PM about it and I'll figure it out!!


How's that?[/QUOTE]

Well DUH on me! :rolleyes:

Thanx,Scarlett ^_^

Nikki

[ender098]

Do they have a button for "Quit making crappy 25th Mold figures and go back to ARAH"? ...oh, nevermind....

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=ender098]Do they have a button for "Quit making crappy 25th Mold figures and go back to ARAH"? ...oh, nevermind....[/QUOTE]
[COLOR=Red]
lol, as soon as i saw this thread,i knew either you or Outrider would have something like this to say.[/COLOR]

[nando]

my VOTE goes to : I HATE 25TH figures , bring back ARAH molds ........... :confused:

[Stormer]

So basically Hasbro is saying they're going to release a bunch more repaints, but dressing it up to present them as something fans want...?

I find it hilarious that they're doing a commemorative series for a commemorative series, already, not to mention you can vote for figures that haven't even been seen let alone released!

[Scarrviper]

[QUOTE=Stormer]So basically Hasbro is saying they're going to release a bunch more repaints, but dressing it up to present them as something fans want...?

I find it hilarious that they're doing a commemorative series for a commemorative series, already, not to mention you can vote for figures that haven't even been seen let alone released![/QUOTE]


My thoughts exactly. Hasbro has some real "geniuses"in charge of the Joe line right now :rolleyes: . Lets see old school again please! :(

[KamikazeGrrl]

Well,I voted for all the girls and the cooler Cobras,like Snow Serpent. ^_^

I love seeing GI Joe in stores again!

Gotta jet,

Nikki

[ender098]

[QUOTE=KamikazeGrrl]

I love seeing GI Joe in stores again!

[/QUOTE]


I do too, but unfortunately, distribution is spotty at best and non-existant for the most part. Hell, we're up to wave what? And I have yet to see some of the figures at all and most of the ones I do see are 1-2 of the same in every store. Nuthin but Peg Warmers from San Diego to Victorville! Gotta love Hasbro!

As for Vehicles, I have yet to see ANY in the stores and they're already "Out of Stock" on HTS. I read a thread on JBL about how TRU is trying to purposely NOT cater to collectors....All I can say is....Job well done, guys! You, Taget and Walmart have effectively destroyed my love of collecting!

Guess it's back to paying top dollar for ARAH Molds from Master Collector!

And what the heck is this?;

http://www.hasbrotoyshop.com/ProductsByBrand.htm?BR=520&ST=SO&ID=21694&PG=1

$19.99 a piece for a figure, a DVD and a PIECE of a toy? So If I want the WHOLE Mass Device or the Whole Weather Dominator, I have to pay $100.00 and end up with 5 DVD's I don't want and 4 Action figures I wouldn't pay a dime for! Errrrggg!!

[Sonneilon]

There's been talk of doing a Hall of Heroes thing for a few years now. But yeah, I'm guessing these will just be repackaged figures in new packaging. Star Wars does the same thing, y'know.

Well, the Mass Device was... at least it looks to scale now. All the shots i had seen leading up to the cartoon pack... I thought you got the whole thing. THey are so trying to take advantage of the collector market.

[Self-Modifier]

I'm pretty sure it was announced back at Toy Fair that the MASS Device would be coming in five pieces. A lot of people seemed to miss that little bit of info though... Doesn't bother me yet, because there's enough stuff in the first two sets to get me excited. I just hope the final three sets are as impressive.

[Flint]

Just put my two cents in the Vote!!!:) Can't wait to see who the Top 10 are!!! :D

[rds13601]

At GI Joe.com you can see, General hawk with leather jacket and helmet, Bazooka, Barbecue, Black Storm Shadow, Bat and Snow Serpent. They run about 7 bucks and says it'll be out soon. We'll see. What do you think?

[Sonneilon]

http://www.joedios.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1916&page=1&pp=10

All that info is in there somewhere... Around the last pages

[snakeshadow]

I just made my picks. I too went with the less seen figures. I think there has to be on factory out there just soley deicated to mass producing Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow figs... so Bazooka and Barbeque got a vote and of course my favorite Cobra trop the EEl got a nod. Hope to see the results!
P.S. Did anyone else linger around on the site long enough to play the Do you know your GI Joe? It was pretty funny. I got a nine out of ten, couldn't for the life of me remember which Drednock was afraid of spiders :o

[haradrel]

[QUOTE=Stormer]So basically Hasbro is saying they're going to release a bunch more repaints, but dressing it up to present them as something fans want...?

I find it hilarious that they're doing a commemorative series for a commemorative series, already, not to mention you can vote for figures that haven't even been seen let alone released![/QUOTE]

My thoughts exactly, I was hoping Quick Kick or someone else was in there, but I guess not...