Get a load of this...

[Sonneilon]

...So I was at Target the other day and found 25A Wave2. Or at least, most of it. There was a duder there checking out the 'action' toys; Star Wars, TF, GI Joe... And we were discussing GI Joe. He's an old time fan and collector. He still has his old figures, like that Cobra La 3 pack (which I had NEVER actually seen). He said that he wasn't going to buy all the 25A figures, but just the most recognizable ones. By no means was he a scalper but he actually said, "I'm just looking for the main characters. Duke, Snake Eyes, Storm Shadow, Cobra Commander..."

I didn't really respond. But I guess there are casual collectors out there who want to see the CORE represented. He actually questioned why Flint was in Wave1 as opposed to Duke. (I told him Duke came in the 5-pack, but he thought Duke should be single packed for the 'kids'.)

Just a lil story for you all.

And have you guys checked out the newz from the JoeCon yet? I'm sure every other Joe website has pics up. I've seen 2 vehicles, Flash, Doc, Snow Job and a few other figures that are to eventually be available. As Craig might say, "it's like being back in the mid80s again."

[gung ho]

ohh yeah there plenty of collectors that ain't on any boards i see grown man come in the toy section with star-wars and other stuff in there hands then they get what they want off the shelf and leave

[ender098]

Ahhh, that's who's killin us. A silent majority who don't seek like minded collectors and are hooked on Snake Eyes, Cobra Commander and Duke! Damn! Who would have thought!

As for the Con, I've seen the VAMP, the Twin Rocket pack guys (Grand Slam and StarDuster), the con setand Roddy Piper....and I heard about the two tanks, but I have yet to see ANY pics!! Anyone got any pics of these Tanks??

[lehsreh]

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[Self-Modifier]

Yeah, I think a lot of the time, we, as collectors, fail to realize that the vast majority of people out there don't know nearly as much about the G.I. Joe brand as we do. I have a few friends who haven't bought a single Joe since they were kids, but are super-psyched about the 25th figures specifically because they're updated versions of their favorite childhood characters, wearing the same uniforms that they remember, and they're purchasing them for that reason.

Hasbro wanted the 25th to appeal to collectors and "lapsed" fans alike. They seem to have succeeded with the latter. The former is open to debate, as we all well know.

P.S.: Grand Slam looks fantastic!

[Flint]

Gotta agree with you guys on this one!!!:) I'm Definately liking what I'm seeing here (thanks lehsreh)!!!:D

Question for you lehsreh: Is that Crankcase beside the AWE Striker??? :D

[bigtattoo]

[QUOTE=ender098]

As for the Con, I've seen the VAMP, the Twin Rocket pack guys (Grand Slam and StarDuster), the con setand Roddy Piper....and I heard about the two tanks, but I have yet to see ANY pics!! Anyone got any pics of these Tanks??[/QUOTE]

http://flickr.com/photos/terhurne/1449291725/in/set-72157602174179223/

The Maulers arent being sent out until Thanksgiving ,so thats the only available images of them.

And Flint- that is indeed Crankcase beside the AWE striker.

[Stormer]

So does it look like the vehicles are going to be straight rereleases? Hope so, as it means I might actually buy some! I only ever got the one HISS III back in '00 so a few more of those wouldn't be bad. And if they come with HISS Drivers all the better, as I could even put up with 25th Anniversary-scale figures if they're only ever sitting down under a canopy...

And if they do a new Deep Six in his original pressure suit, but with articulation, I couldn't see him looking like the rest of the line's figures still, so I could certainly be tempted by one of those...

[Sonneilon]

The problem now is, will these bigger figures FIT in the old vehicles? I doubt it. I'm considering doing a dio that'll mix the 2002 Joes and the 25A Joes but the height differences are killing me. In a way, I'm having to wait for a few more figures to show up before I think seriously about it.

I didn't check TNI for pics since I don't visit there. So thank Mr. Lehsreh for a few pics hosted by himself.

I love the idea of the Awestriker coming back. I never had one so I'd be cool with that and Crankcase.





As for the 'silent collectors', I've stated many times that if you ask any 30-something adult (late 20s too) who they remember from GI Joe, the Core will be remembered. You'll be lucky if they remember anyone from 1986 and up too. Maybe 1987 and up? And yes, it's THOSE casual collectors who screw things up!!! lol Still, like SelfMod was saying, there are those who were interested in seeing their old beloved characters with new technology. I'm actually one of them. Or at least, I was really interested in what could be done. NOw that we know... Knowing is half the battle?

[Outrider]

[QUOTE=Sonneilon]And have you guys checked out the newz from the JoeCon yet? I'm sure every other Joe website has pics up. I've seen 2 vehicles, Flash, Doc, Snow Job and a few other figures that are to eventually be available. As Craig might say, "it's like being back in the mid80s again."[/QUOTE]

It's like being back in the mid 80's again, except in an alternate universe where all the joe figures suck! :mad:

[General Scarlett]

[QUOTE=Flint]Gotta agree with you guys on this one!!!:) I'm Definately liking what I'm seeing here (thanks lehsreh)!!!:D

Question for you lehsreh: Is that Crankcase beside the AWE Striker??? :D[/QUOTE]


Yes Flint, that is indeed Crankcase next to the A.W.E. Striker........:cool:

I have to admit, these vehicles are making me exited!!!

[lehsreh]

[QUOTE=General Scarlett]
I have to admit, these vehicles are making me exited!!![/QUOTE]
[COLOR=Red]
me too. especially since i didnt collect vehicles as a kid. now its my chance to get some, even if they are repaints. and as they have said flint, it is crank case. a surprise to get a character like him, another good thing about getting vehicles.[/COLOR]

[Lava Boss]

Hopefully it's not lip service, and they will fix the figures so they can sit down.

Comic packs won't ship until next spring....soooo long away and the first wave mostly sucks. Torch and Ripper are good on paper, but Torch has Gung Ho arms with the awful elbow bands. New comic cover art not especially interesting to me. New Hama issues more interesting.

Vehicles:
Enough with the Sharc, you cannot polish that floating turd anymore. The interior was designed for Deep Six V1, yet it's been reissued 3 times without that figure and is now getting a fourth repaint. Make a new interior or an all new SHARC. Grand Slam piloting it??

I like the AWE Striker and HISS v1, but not very exciting. They are recognizable to "lapsed fans", though. No actual HISS Driver, but a urban camo Cobra who doesn't match his ride.

I guess they lost or altered the Stinger mold, if anyone would fit in it. The Stun is one they could do, too. But odds are if there's more RAH vehicle reissues, it'll be the Snow Cat again.

The 5 packs:

The cobra's camo doesn't do it for it. If they were RAH molds, then maybe, because they'd be adding to a great big collection. With 25th style, they seem out of place, introducing new look when the line is mostly retro. It's not a realistic camo, either.

Snake-Eyes V1,031 and some Red Ninja who have Storm Shadow heads. Huh? Maybe they'll change that. But how many red ninjas can you stand? Between the single card one (which looks better) and this pack, that's almost more than enough for me. But these packs are long way off I gather.

Basic figures:
Snow Job: cool as long as his coat tails are removable or he can sit...in theory

Crimson Guard: the masked is too beaked, plus the visor too short...DTC head looked better.

Flash: Not as cool as I'd hoped

Destro: head seems tiny, too soon for an all new Destro...but they are pushing the core characters.

Snake-Eyes: Why did they release the black timber as a chase figure when they could've stuck it with one the 50 future Snake-Eyes repaints they planned?

DTC wave 4 going to Master Collector, along with unmade Cobra Commander (sigma six look)....cool, I can write off ever owning these! :cool:

The one thing I got out of the convention: HASBRO cannot make 2 types of GI JOE figures at once anymore. Putting 8" on hiatus to focus on 3 3/4"? WHAT? 3 3/4" was all but written off a year before, and now former golden boy 8" is sidelined? Hasbro has too many properties (Star Wars, Marvel Legends, Transformers, Spiderman), they are competing against themselves in a dwindling action figure market...that's all I can figure out.

[Sonneilon]

I'm more interested in the Awestriker than any of the others. I do not like the blue HISS. I had an original as a kid and that was the bomb. I'd rather find the DTC HISSs before this big cannon one.

[Scarrviper]

That hiss and awe striker will be mine :D . Finally something that I can be excited about.

[Flint]

Thanks Guys for answering My Question about of that was Crankcase!!! :)
Looks like We are going to get some pretty cool stuff coming out!!! :D