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Old 06-09-2010, 01:35 PM #11
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I think that a lot of us here are adult, but G.I.JOE are toys.
I agree with Hammerfel that we'd not post here erotic-soft porn, etc. themed pictures. We'd respect who (probably little guys too) look at our pics and dioramas.
It is not moralism, but logic from clever and smart guys and girls as we are.
I hope Fireflyed return here. He deserve a last chance.
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Sometimes I have no time for long comments, but I look at every pictures, reviews, files, collections and dioramas on this loved site that I consider as a second home. I already do not know english language very well.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:41 PM #12
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I'm not going to got back and forth publicly-its redundant and ridiculous. Everyone is going to post their thoughts and opinions. But not everyone has to agree with them. That's one of the points of a public forum. Most people would do well to remember the clearly stated site rules and regulations regarding interaction between members and the matter of respect for said thoughts/opinions.

I will address the BSA question though.

Simply put, this site is owned by Hammerfel. His son is a member of the BSA. If someone came across his site and saw something untoward and lodged a sexual complaint, there would be a great deal of aggravation that came down on the site owner, up to and possibly including fines and/or jail time. In turn that would force him to close the site altogether. I suppose that would end all this drama once and for all wouldn't it??

The BSA is geared toward teaching moral and ethical treatment of one's self and through that, everyone else. In layman's terms, using good common sense at all times. Additionally, the military looks to the BSA to work toward new recruits (much the same way they do with HS Marching Bands and the like), to continue to fill the ranks of the military. Guns, explosions and violence are 'the norm' in the military-gratuitous sexual innuendo isn't, at least not publicly.
That's the whole point I'm making. Use some common sense and don't attempt to be asinine just to 'win friends and be cool'. Watching the Joes blow up a Cobra base is a whole lot different than watching the figures bump 'n grind, clothed or otherwise.
And its not about 'seeing things that aren't really there'. Its about knowing the difference between what's right and wrong. Obviously the picture was wrong (and the last in a long line of infractions by the member, according to the Admin staff). As such, the actions determined the outcome. Its no one else's business what transpired between Cory and the staff.
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:52 PM #13
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General Scarlett takes the point as ever, now it's better to go on i.m.o..
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Old 06-09-2010, 01:54 PM #14
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I've told you all, you don't know most of the story. FF has HAD chances and reprimands.

You say the point is missed in that certain other questionable pictures haven't led to banning or whatever. Well, it takes formal complaints for me to address the poster of them. Otherwise, me and/or Hammerfel would have handled them.

Some might say it's a condascending tone. I feel it's more politically neutral. Have you ever read a legal document? I keep it fair and to the point.

The law MAY have not been in place because Hammerfel originally wanted a site that was self-policed. If someone had a problem with another member or their pictures, it would be conducted through PMs. If things got out of control, then the mod/admins would be asked to step in or they would step in anyway.

As well, there is a REPORT/FLAG picture option on this site. For a time, I'd get 15 a day, usually by the same guy. They would give no reason, just that he didn't like them. We ask that there is reasoning of why a picture is offensive. I seem to remember a picture of Firefly blowing up Disneyland and that struck a chord with several people. I wasn't exactly around to take care of that one, but my proxy did.

Perhaps some of the community have forgotten HOW I got this position on this site. I came to the position because we were getting a number of spammers and flamers. At the time, only Hammerfel had the banning ability. Because he is busy, he promoted me based on my time here and the support I received from the community at the time.

Nekoman, you asked me to sight reasoning why FF's picture is worse than the others. Hammerfel already stated WHY. I am only going off what people are feeling about the photo in question. The other 3 photos that were brought up were directed to the people who originally posted them.

Part of the problem here is not focusing on the problem, but bringing up the past where no action was taken. Because I got no formal complaints about them AT THAT TIME, no action was taken. NOW that they have been brought to light, action is NOW being taken.

I state again, the situation with FF goes deeper than just 1 picture. It's only that this last act was the final straw.





OH! 1 last thing and I mentioned this before and this is entirely off topic.

The newly created Outrider Memorial area was set up for us to put photos (or whatever) in that section dedicated to him and his wife. I wanted to pm Deanne sometime and give her the link so she can see what people are doing in memory of Craig. It would be easy for her to cruise through instead of going through the pages in PHOTOS to find what would be pertinient.

Also, Hammerfel can't figure out how to get the COLLECTIONS and OUTRIDER sections on the front page like it does with FILES, REVIEWS, DIORAMAS and PHOTOS. He apologizes for that and seeks a web designer to see what the malfunction is.
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:12 PM #15
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OK i want to bring up a point about perception. Below is a photo that can bring up many thoughts and comments according to the person's looking at it.

Is this photo perverted?

Title: "Scarlett In Trouble" and no caption for the pic
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Old 06-09-2010, 02:17 PM #16
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I believe that in the question of "sex scenes" in general, Hammer nails it right on the head (pun intended).

If it can further and enrich the personality and story of a Dio, go for it.

Now if it is just to see reactions, DON'T.


Thank you for your time, now please go and enjoy the evil of Mcdonalds.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:20 PM #17
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OK i want to bring up a point about perception. Below is a photo that can bring up many thoughts and comments according to the person's looking at it.

Is this photo perverted?

Title: "Scarlett In Trouble" and no caption for the pic



Tracker the diferrence between action and filth is (I have to say it)
"Location Location Location" LMAO!

a very clean shot thank you.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:23 PM #18
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Speaking solely on censorship, I don't think photos should be deleted unless they're not toy related or if they are being used to be malicious to a real person. It seems kind of ridiculous to delete a photo of drinking and dancing when there are constantly photos being posted of people being killed. And sex? Come on people, they're fully clothed toys, they can't have sex. Maybe someone can imply it but it takes the viewer to imagine it. I know somebody will say that JoeDios can't have "sexy" shots because of younger viewers but how can you tell them sex is bad but killing is acceptable?

What's going to be censored next? These are toys, don't take them so seriously.


Agreed 100%

I couldn't have said it better. This situation has become absurd.
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Old 06-09-2010, 04:24 PM #19
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My god, they were DANCING!!!!!


Chocolate city is a bar and grill, not a sex house. If you go to the chocolate city website there is a picture of people DANCING in the same pose are there front page. that's where I pulled the idea off the pose from. Have all of you really never happened across a music video of this style of dance in the last 19 years. Dancing.
And to address what hammer said. I didn't post it in order to create some sort of reaction or for the shock value. Because I didn't even think it could ever been implied that they were engaging in sexual intercourse in a parking lot while black ripcord watches. That's crazy. There toys with clothes on. And yes I had been warned or infracted upon or whatever. But this picture was not an attempt to over step the boundaries or push the envelope. I heeded my warnings wasn't trying to piss anyone off or freak anyone out. It was dancing.
I saw a bar with an freaking funny name and thought the picture was hilarious! That fact that you were all so offended by it is truly mind boggling to me. I guess I should have waited till wacky weds or said they were dancing. But I never thought it could be perceived as sex. Doc's still got his pants on! You took it down, you deleted my account whatever. I will not apologize for the photo as my intent was not to promote sex in the outdoors or prostitution Or whatever, I will apologize for offending you. I guess it's about perception I did not think you people who are offended what take it so out of context. What kind of dude do y'all think I am? I don't have any sex in my dios no naked customs, nothing close to that and probably never will. I totally 100 percent agree with the new rule of no sex scenes. I do. Because that was not what my shot was about. Sex with toys is retarded. The focal point was supposed to be the sign. Not the other silliness. And that's what is was as that's what all of this is, silliness. It was not sex folks, it was dancing. I am so sorry that so many people perceived it as otherwise. People on flickr seem to love it! It's funny. It's really funny. Chocolate city for the name of a bar where most patrons are African American is funny. This is my apology. I'm sorry to upset soooooooooooooooooooooo many people. I was not trying to disregard my warnings and cause a ruckus. It was just a joke about a bar. Ironically it got even more exposure because of this silly banning crap than it ever would have got if you had paid no attention to it or just deleted it and pm'd me, "hey inappropriate, your on a short leash, you trying to get banned yo?l" it could then have been explained. But to have such a knee jerk reaction to such radical misinterpretation did a lot more harm to this joint than the picture ever did. That sucka would probably be on page 6 and there wouldn't be a million posts about the dancing figs. I'm sorry you all didn't get the joke but hey at least you shook the place up a bit. This is the most posts I've seen here in months. That's all I got, I hope you all don't misinterpret this post. Thanks to everyone that has stood up for me and for all the nice pm's. the banning was an injustice, not because what you did was wrong, but because it was over a confused perception of an otherwise awesome photo. I'm out.


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Old 06-09-2010, 04:32 PM #20
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now please go and enjoy the evil of Mcdonalds.



OmG Please don't do it!!

Tracker I think there's nothing perverted in that picture IMHO.
I even found nothing wrong in Fireflied's picture , but ehy, I'm not the Joedios' owner Me and Neapolitan are the MOds of the italian Gijoe forum and we faced some bad situations last yeas that's why I know how hard is being a MOD or Admin of a website and sometimes it's really hard to take the "right decision" for all the community, but for me this situation it totally different, that's why I don't get why FF gets banned, (ok maybe I don't know the entire hystory).
Joedios is well managed and all the people I've met here are so friendly infact I have to say thank you because Joesdios is my second home now.

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Speaking solely on censorship, I don't think photos should be deleted unless they're not toy related or if they are being used to be malicious to a real person. It seems kind of ridiculous to delete a photo of drinking and dancing when there are constantly photos being posted of people being killed. And sex? Come on people, they're fully clothed toys, they can't have sex. Maybe someone can imply it but it takes the viewer to imagine it. I know somebody will say that JoeDios can't have "sexy" shots because of younger viewers but how can you tell them sex is bad but killing is acceptable?

What's going to be censored next? These are toys, don't take them so seriously.


I also agree with you Troops infact I couldn't say better than that. Killing is acceptable but goofy scenes of "sex" (very hard to think on sex between toys )
are forbidden...

I only hope that FF may have the last chance...
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