I posted this to the closed thread, but I wanted to also post it here for community contribution.

To the photo in question, it was too suggestive for my tastes, especially as a stand-alone shot. I'm not opposed to sexy scenes in dio stories, as long as they further the plot, like the Scarlett / Helix shot linked above contributed to that story.

Think of it this way. When you see a one-shot photo of a man behind a bent over woman, simulating sex, that's just a titillating photo meant to get a reaction out of the viewer. It akin to soft-core porn. When you watch a movie, and the same scene takes pace between lovers, it (hopefully) enriches the story and develops the characters. Heck, even I have a "sex scene " in one of my dios, but it develops my character of Kamakura have "the ear that sees" and involves known lovers, Lady Jaye and Flint.

Policy-wise, use your best judgment to enhance and protect JoeDios reputation for quality content. If you need to have a sex scene in your dio story, that's fine with me, but pick a less controversial frame for your JoeDios post that links to the story, because that image shows up on our front page, and represents JoeDios.

If you want to do soft-core porn shots that aren't part of a story, keep it to Flickr and link to it from a forum thread if you like (don't show the image in the thread, just the link, please).

Now, please give me feedback on this policy. Is this in line with what you want out of JoeDios? This site doesn't just belong to me. It belongs to everyone who contributes. YO JOE!

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There's a difference between 'sex' and 'sexy'.


'Sex' is not something that needs to be public on a site like this. As you know 'Fel, the BSA is very strict on these matters. I know as well, since I too am a VERY active member of the BSA, who is 6 months from having my 17yo become an Eagle Scout. Therefore, keeping 'sex' type shots out of this site would be in the best interest of EVERYONE. Its crude, and this site has never been about crudeness. Maybe some questionable personal tastes, but not smut.

Something 'sexy' (like the 3 links that were referenced) are borderline (especially with the 'Helix/Scarlett' one-which I personally do NOT appreciate). As for the Clutch one, that's the established character's persona, and honestly it wasn't offensive (its not like his hand was up her skirt). The 'Baroness/Raptor' one, well, that could be one of those 'borderline' shots, simply for the fact that Anastasia has her legs wrapped around his waist.

But in the end, none of these was a blatant attempt at a 'sex' scene. Fireflyed's picture was. Plain and simple. And whether he admits it or not, he *knows* that it was.


I've seen 'sexy' themed shots (i.e.-kissing, etc.) grace the photo section of this site, hell, I've even snapped a few myself and posted them. But the difference was that it was done in good taste and with respect. Not only to myself and my fellow members, but to the characters themselves. Yes, that's right. They deserve respect as well, otherwise, why bother with something so small?? There are companies that can accommodate people with fetish penchants.

This site is meant to be a place that revels in the glory of 'G.I. JOE', not 'Mr. Lucky's Gentleman's Club'.

As you've stated, if someone feels the need to embellish levels of voyeurism, then find someplace that caters to that and if you want people to view it, give them a link with an innocuous picture to lead them there. But don't use JoeDios as a portal to 'get your rocks off' by posing plastic army figures in compromising *adult* situations that would make your mother blush.

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For the record, the 3 OTHER pictures in question have been addressed.

it's with a sense of great pride that I remove my picture of Helix and Scarlett. if I can inspire great controversy over a kiss then I truly am a great dio artist and have touched all of you

but before any one starts using my picture as a shield for their own. I asked in the comments section WHEN I POSTED IT that if it was offensive in any way that the admins remove it.

I follow the rules... we don't pay for this site gang the owner does and as far as I'm concerned we should be grateful that someone is allowing us a place to share our work.
if someone violates the rules multiple times they get banned.

however... It was said that some thought they already banned
http://www.joedios.com/forum/showth...37&page=3&pp=10

that was a little disturbing.

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I prolly got you mixed up with someone else that I was arguing with a few months ago. Something about the difference between "These are just pictures" and that some people consider what we do "pieces of art". But anyway, back to the topic at hand.

Hammerfel ALL dancing is mimicking sex. That's why it's part of the courtship ritual, and why women like a guy who knows how to dance And Cory really doesn't have a bad reputation, with a vast majority of the active members here




You know the thing that bothered me the most about it was the fact that it was really just photos designed to appeal to people's prurient interests and hidden behind "Essay on posing"

Ah the old subject of sex and action figures.

Only thing I can add is once long ago I found a fanfic that had a three way with Flint, Lady Jaye and Optimus prime. No indication of this on the title or anything, just a Transfromers/GI Joe crossover was all it said. Really disturbed me at the time cause I was like "Why do people want to think about thier figures doing the nasty?"

I really gave up on trying to figure it out along time ago. Toys and sex should be reserved for toys designed for it IMO (Sorry couldn't resist the obvious joke there).

If it floats your boat, great, but I just don't think it works here.

I wouldn't call that censorship either, there are plenty of places to post the stuff (heck you can even make your own website if you chose). But I personally like the idea of JD being relitivly kid friendly. Even the "violent" content here is tame compaird to some sites I have seen.

Just a few pennies to toss in.

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i don't know i just seen as tasteful test of intimacy ,posing, and nothing more.

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I'm not sure that's what anyone wanted, but whatever.

Hammerfel, the rule now seems fair enough. But this was NOT in place when FF was banned, additionally, many other members have posted the same thing or WORSE and got off free. Scarlet, I think you weren't actively coming here when some other photos depicting sex showed up. Scratch that, I've seen photos depicting BONDAGE on here and no one got banned.

Doing some digging, I've seen that other people have been given second (and third, and fourth) chances here for other things. Why not give FF a second chance, but explain to him that shots like his last stay at Flikr? Just give him another chance, he's a good guy.

Sonneilon, I think in past threads about this you've been condescending in your tone, but I'm sure some of us have given you a hard time and I'm sorry for that. All I ask is that you give FF one more chance, especially now that this rule is in place.

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Nate, that was the most logical and cool response to this issue. I appreciate how receptive you are to an element that is part of life. The fact that you allow a link is appreciated. Maybe we could have a little more humorous approach to editing or deleting scenes like "Chocolate City". Most of us are adults and probably go on the defense about our pics, so usually, a humorous approach to enforcement is more easily digested. I have no idea how the issue was approached, I am just saying in general, people are more receptive to reprimand with a grain of humor thrown in.
For the record, I think Graham is the best moderator and face of the site. I don't kiss ass, I usually have my cousin MoMo kick it for me I would never volunteer to be the MOD here and I think it takes commitment to the site to do it. In the end, we all, including myself, can't be total self editors and hopefully when we make a mistake, we don't react too defensively, and conversely, we aren't admonished too severely. I thank you, Nate, for this site and I hope we can keep the talent here.

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