When the pictures of Stormy were first released, I thought wow. Then more pictures were released, these pictures highlighting the lack of an o-ring. That wasn't good for me. I'm really into traditional style Joe's. While I initially thought these new 25th Joe's were cool... they just wern't proper G.I.'s in my mind. Now that I'm seeing more of them I don't even think they are cool anymore. Scarlett cannot sit down... If she can't... Who else can't sit? The Cobra symbol on CC's shirt is way too small... I don't think the proportions are any better than what they were on the VvV line... I could go on...

I've said on other threads on this site how I feel Hasbro have shafted the collector with this 25th anniv line, so I won't go into that either...

I'm pretty down about the whole thing.

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I dunno if I agree with you dave, I won't argue the point of it being different, as it's quite clear hasbro wanted to use the 25th as an excuse to try out something new.

I do agree partly with what you said weeks ago maybe for the celebrations they should of stuck to more conventional methods

I've seen the review on Scarlett, and like any figure she has plus points and minus points too. The fact she can't sit down properly is a bad design flaw but maybe hasbro will modify this for 2008?

In 1982 they made adjustments to the whole 1st series and brought out them again as re-released versions with swivel arms. Giving better articulation to the arms. Perhaps we'll see history repeat itself 25 years later, but don't hold your breath.

I just looked at some images of the price cards, it had snow job, gung-ho and crimson guard priced at $5 each. Hmm.. I'd be interested in some of that.
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Wow, I just realized I didn't post the link last night. It's up there now.

I have to respectfully disagree with you, Jock. When the first publicity shots came out, I thought they were fantastic, but then, as with you, when the next round of pics came along they didn't seem so hot. But other pictures since then, including (and especially) these, make me feel once more that these may be the best Joes since... Well, a long time ago. Maybe my opinions are colored by the fact that they're finally re-doing everyone's classic costumes, but I just think these are fantastic.


CC: Yeah, the Cobra symbol is too small, and his helmet is too low on his head. But since the helmet is removable, I think whoever took the shots just mashed it down on there too hard. Otherwise, he looks great to me.

Baroness: Looks outstanding to me. I love the way her body suit is a different color from her armor, and I like the snobbish appearance to her face. Sure, I wish her hair wasn't blowing in the wind, but I got past that on comic pack Cover Girl, and I can do it for the Baroness too.

Storm-Shadow: Look at that head! It's like he walked out of a frame of the Sunbow animation! I swear they sculpted it based on the cartoon model sheets. His accessories are very nicely detailed too. I love the gold trim on his swords.

Destro: This was the one that I didn't like when the very first pics came out, but I have since changed my opinions. These photos show that I can finally retire my custom, because this Destro will be my definitive version, bar none. I love the color used for his suit, and the cartoon-inspired green eyes. And his head, which I thought was way too small when the original images were released, looks fine here.

Cobra Trooper: He's just amazing too. I love how his helmet finally looks like it appeared on the card art, comics, and cartoon, with the wide opening instead of fitting snugly around the head like previous versions.


Anyway, those are my gushing opinions. They are, of course, subject to change when I hold the figures in my hands, but I really don't see that happening.

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I'm with you Dave. The more I see of them, the less I like them, and these photos only confirm my feelings. I don't think they will sell well at all amongst traditional Joe collectors such as ourselves. I know it's a celebration of GI Joe's 25 years, but the fact that it's the same old characters is also a bummer. How many Snake Eyes/ CC's/ Storm Shadows, etc, do we need? I'll be saving my money.

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I'm really very surprised that these pictures aren't changing anyone's mind. I thought these made them look way better than any of the previous photos. To each their own, though.

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Looks like Destro and Storm Shadow can sit down! Dunno about CC, Baroness and the Trooper, though...

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I ain't saying I'll not buy them, what I'll say is that I'll buy one of them and before get them out of package and "fighting" down here, I'll not put my money on them. But I would be more happy and waiting to support the 25th if I could see comic packs versions out for the 25th. Not in the new mold, but like the comic packs were coming out in VvsV.

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Oh man.. I am getting more excited when i see those pics.. those poses for baroness look sweeeeeet
I hope my contact gets back to me with some good news soon
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Wel, after seeing those pics and some more that came up recently, I still exactly don't know how I feel about the 25th Anniv Joes. While in general I LOVE them, they have so many things to reproach that I'm not sure if I love them that much. For example, I find the 5-pack Snake-Eyes the most amazing figure I've seen in ages... but on the other hand the neck construction is sooooo crapy!

I'll likely get the Cobra pack, because I'm a recovering Cobraholic and it's unlikely ARAH style comic pack C.C. is coming ever... and this 25th one looks better than the JvcC "skirt" version. Though there's plenty wrong with this new one...the odd waist area...the long legs. The left hand is different...too limiting as a toy, but might be amusing.

I want a better Destro, but I think this one will be too tall to use apart from this line.

Storm Shadow, the tunic design obviously limits some poses. I've usually hated that on past figures. His head sculpt is nice, but if this ninja can't grip his sword with both hands...the figure is a failure in my book.

Baroness, not likely the literal interpretation of the card art's wind blown hair. Her holster is drawn with her left hand. She's a leftie? Overall, undecided about her.

Diaper crotch thing, as some call it, was unnecessary...why is Hasbro concerned with that asthetic, but not the awkward looking mid-torso joing? It also seems to me that arms that bend-in more would be more useful than double jointed knees.
But that also might be asthetically ugly

The trooper looks best, except the "diaper crotch". Maybe his right leg pouch is a big overdone. Hard to say just yet.

Also, Cobra insignias are too small on Commander, Baroness and Trooper.