JoeDios.com Forums - *OFFICIAL* 25th Figures/Vehicles/Accessories, etc. Discussions ~Part 1

02-27-2007, 01:12 PM	#351
Self-Modifier Crossover King Emeritus Offline --> Posts: 1,472 --> Join Date: Feb 2005	Personally, I'm glad to be getting a second Snake-Eyes and Cobra Commander. Mind you, I would've preferred swappable heads for CC and just SE v2, but I really need a hooded CC in some form from this set, and the same goes for Snake-Eyes version 2. So if the only way to get those versions of those characters is to have two of each of them, I'll be happy with what I'm getting. Storm Shadow v2, however, is another story. His original look is his classic look! Does anyone honestly think of version 2 when they're imagining Storm Shadow? I guess it's possible, but I always figured v1 was what would be ingrained in all our minds. Of course, this could also be because I like his Ninja Force costume better than his v2 costume. Black & white is so much cooler than blue & white! I really have no opinion on Cobra Officer either way since I'm betting it'll just be a repaint of Cobra Trooper with a different head and straps. Overall, yeah, I'm somewhat disappointed with repetition this early in the process, but: A.) We need different versions of a couple of these guys, and B.) Does anyone honestly expect Hasbro not to do repeats and three-peats?? __________________ is on indefinite hiatus...

02-27-2007, 02:27 PM

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I really have no opinion on Cobra Officer either way since I'm betting it'll just be a repaint of Cobra Trooper with a different head and straps.

I just mean it's a bit daft to have the Officer in a more army-buildable single pack, when they should be outnumbered by the Troopers in their command. Buggered if I'm buying multiple 5-packs just to get more Troopers, so hopefully the single-card rumour's true!

02-27-2007, 08:57 PM

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Just read on JoeCustoms that the new issue of Lee's Action Figure Review has a pic of these four figures plus Flint. Here's the quote:

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Originally Posted by Scrapiron-Scavenger on the JoeCustoms board

Reports of the figure builds are:

Storm Shadow (based on the 1988 version): New head, paint apps and accessories on the existing body
Snake Eyes (based on the 1985 version): New head and web gear, includes Timber (may be reuse of the Valor vs. Venom accessory)
Cobra Commander (based on his 1984 mail in): New head and paint apps on existing body
Cobra Officer: New head and web gear on Trooper body
Flint: New head and likely new web gear on the existing Duke body.

I can see these working for the most part. However, I would think Storm Shadow might also have Duke's arms instead of his own, since Duke v1's sleeves were partially rolled up like Storm Shadow v2's. Also, I would hope Flint does not use Duke's arms since his sleeves should be up to his biceps rather than his forearms.

Anyway, they sound pretty good overall, as far as part re-using goes. The magazine is too expensive for me to buy it for this one reason, but I do plan to look for it tomorrow to try and see the pics.

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02-28-2007, 12:13 PM	#354
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	I've seen the light on the JBL. They're cool and all but Flint looks long-torso'd to me.

02-28-2007, 12:18 PM	#355
Jay Still 100% Twitter-free. Offline --> Posts: 2,411 --> Join Date: May 2006	They're all just repaints. Flint is Duke with new gear and a new head. (explains the long sleeves) Snake-Eyes is the first one with new gear and a new head. Storm Shadow is the first one with new gear and a new head. (explains the short sleeves) Cobra Commander, pretty obvious. And the Officer is just a trooper with new gear and a new head. (explains the kneepads which the officer never had) Weak. __________________ RIP Minouche, 1994-2009.

02-28-2007, 12:33 PM	#356
lehsreh G.I. Smurf Offline --> Posts: 3,446 --> Join Date: Jan 2006	where in JBL does it show the reast of the figures. im on the 25th ann part right now, i dont see it

02-28-2007, 04:16 PM	#357
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	2nd page of the MC Newsletter post. And Jay, "weak" is an understatement. Sure, reused bodies can work and repaints and blah blha blah... But Hasbro tried to make it a point that they were doing all new molds and they'll have the most articulation ever. Now, I need to go back and read the official Hasbro blurb. Because maybe, just maybe, Hasbro's sneaky wordmeisters phrased it more like, "The 1st 10 figures will have unique molds" and everyone else will be rehashed! This summer, Hasbro will release 25 collectible 3 3/4" figures to celebrate the 25th Anniversary of G.I. JOE VS. COBRA. Featured below are the first ten action figures to be revealed. Sure to delight fans both new and old, 25th Anniversary Figures are all new sculpts and the most detailed and articulated G.I. JOE figures ever! Click on action figure to see larger image, and see 25TH ANNIVERSARY and HISTORY for more information! Ok. If we dissect this bad boy... It says that there will be 25 figures, not characters. And it also says that the 25th Anniversary Figs will be all new sculpts but it doesn't specify that EACH figure will be a nu skulpt, right? This just means that Hasbro chooses their words carefully. Now, how many of us actually looked at it this way, said something, but as usual, it was dismissed?

02-28-2007, 04:28 PM	#358
Jay Still 100% Twitter-free. Offline --> Posts: 2,411 --> Join Date: May 2006	Not that it really matters to me, I wasn't planning on buying any. I'm just not surprised Hasbro decided to go the cheap way like that again... Oh well. I'll just finish my ARAH collection instead. __________________ RIP Minouche, 1994-2009.

02-28-2007, 05:17 PM	#359
Self-Modifier Crossover King Emeritus Offline --> Posts: 1,472 --> Join Date: Feb 2005	I have to say, I was anticipating some repaints in this line, so I'm not that worked up about it. As has been pointed out elsewhere, the original 1982 line was built on only a few parts. Many of the figures even has the same heads! In a way, this is almost a fitting anniversary tribute to that, if you think about it. Mind you, I'm not saying I wouldn't have preferred all new sculpts, but knowing Hasbro, I just wasn't expecting it, so I didn't get my hopes up that high to begin with. I still think they look good, and I'm sure there will be some more new sculpts showing up in the final ten figures. __________________ is on indefinite hiatus...

02-28-2007, 06:39 PM

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Actually, it is believed that the Cobra Trooper will also show up single-carded, eventually. I know, there's some weird logic behind it and I'm just getting stuff from the JBL.

It was also believed these would all be unique sculpts, especially as far as characters went. So I'm not holding my breath for single carded troopers.

I'm seeing "business as usual" here. Not that surprising, but not a good thing.

Swapping heads does not a Snake-Eyes v2 make. The boot are wrong for one thing. Likewise Storm Shadow's arms are wrong and he's still got the sandals. The vintage tribute and update theme fans saw in 25th anniversary has been mangled for economics.

Cobra Officer's got knee pads, has no distinct cuffs, the collar is mix of trooper and officer.

Only Cobra Commander is "right". And he still should've been saved for wave 3 at least (assuming this is wave 1 of single cards).

Flint...the sleeves are wrong. I suppose the rest is passable, depending on how decent Duke is. Still, for a popular character to be little more than a new head...Flint deserved more.

And really, if they were gonna do this, why go right to doing second versions of the main characters as soon as possible? Why not use Snake-Eyes parts for Grunt or Stalker or even Zap or Breaker?

If this is the first wave. It's like we are right back the repaints and redo's of the same "core" characters mode that sapped a lot of ethusiasm out of both the 2002-2005 new sculpts and the RAH reissues. 15 figures, only 10 characters plus two cobra troops that are very, very similar.