JoeDios.com Forums - *OFFICIAL* 25th Figures/Vehicles/Accessories, etc. Discussions ~Part 1

02-15-2007, 09:55 AM	#301
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	It's been stated by Hasbro that they HAVE lost several molds over the years. The main story is that Hasbro lent out a whole lot of molds and they were 'lost'. Be it they fell off a freight ship, stolen, resold to another company by the company it was lent to, etc. Tis the reason why a lot of the vehicles never got made again. Particularly the Skystriker.

02-15-2007, 10:01 AM	#302
General Scarlett Hell hath no fury.... Offline --> Posts: 7,646 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	Oh I know-in fact Jay & I are conversing about this over in 'No more 3 packs'. My whole thing is that there is NO ONE who has a blueprint somewhere to re-manufacture the molds???? I just cannot believe this....it's too too stupid to comprehend!! Sell the blueprints on Ebay-or I'll just learn how to make 'em & share the glory with all of 'my guys'!!!! __________________ Non illigitamus carborundum~Vos mos non effrego mihi Coming soon: 'JoeSpecialOps'

02-15-2007, 10:04 AM	#303
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	I didn't catch that thread until this one. Jay's right on all points. WHich means, he can be a minister of information here too! I'll assume Jay mentioned this, but to create new molds, it is really expensive. Now, I don't know why it'd cost bundles, but there's talk that it's literally 10s of thousands of dollars to do the molds. And they are heavy. It wouldn't be cost effective to create new molds for something they won't profit from. I'm looking at you, DOC!!! :P

02-15-2007, 10:04 AM	#304
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	I didn't catch that thread until this one. Jay's right on all points. WHich means, he can be a minister of information here too! I'll assume Jay mentioned this, but to create new molds, it is really expensive. Now, I don't know why it'd cost bundles, but there's talk that it's literally 10s of thousands of dollars to do the molds. And they are heavy. It wouldn't be cost effective to create new molds for something they won't profit from. I'm looking at you, DOC!!! :P And let's face it, Hasbro's crew will also play favorites. You think they remember Doc?

02-15-2007, 10:09 AM	#305
General Scarlett Hell hath no fury.... Offline --> Posts: 7,646 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	Blah, blah, blah-they contract this crap out to third world countries & use it as a tax write off when they don't 'recoup' their costs (whch BTW they ALWAYS do, they market all over the world for god's sake!!!) All I'm saying is that ANYTHING is possible & these people should really take their heads out of their @$$es long enough to see that!! But they won't and we'll all just spend our time bitchin' about it................ I'm sorry for injecting a woman's perspective into this.........please forgive __________________ Non illigitamus carborundum~Vos mos non effrego mihi Coming soon: 'JoeSpecialOps'

02-15-2007, 10:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Sonneilon

Get a load of this, Leshreh. People didn't want gritty Joes!

...but I like gritty Joes!

Seriously though, it is an expensive process to make new molds or dies. The last die we had made at work several years ago cost us over $10,000 Aus (around $8,000 US). Alot of the expense is in the precision required and the metal that is used, as it has to be specially hardened. So if you think along the lines that to recreate an old figure with new dies, with 10 or 15 body parts, that's a lot of cash to outlay for a figure which might not sell well.

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02-15-2007, 10:24 AM	#307
General Scarlett Hell hath no fury.... Offline --> Posts: 7,646 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	So don't get a raise for a quarter!! They make more money than their ever going to spend already!!!!! WOW!! I need to get out of the house-RIGHT NOW!!!! __________________ Non illigitamus carborundum~Vos mos non effrego mihi Coming soon: 'JoeSpecialOps'

02-15-2007, 11:56 AM	#308
lehsreh G.I. Smurf Offline --> Posts: 3,446 --> Join Date: Jan 2006	i went over on general joes and looked at them again. if these are the final product then i think they all went down at least 3 notches since we first saw them. i mean they werent the best at first, i liked gung ho and the trooper, but now they even look bad. i havent read every reply in this thread, so im gonna ask again. are the color changes over on general joes what the final product will look like, i hope not because i would rather use the comic scarlette, that i have instead of this one. they couldnt have made her any worse if they actually tried, and what the bloody blue smurf did they do to gung ho's abs, and what is that on CC's back??? one would think that if they wanted to try one last push for the 3 3/4 line then they would have made them at least as good as the promo version. maybe hasbro still has some of the guys from kenner, you know since they bought them out way, way back and the kenner guys still have a grudge against them because they were big star wars fans,lol. that would explain a lot.

02-15-2007, 12:00 PM	#309
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	I know, Craig. I like the gritty too. But for some reason, a lot of the internet fans don't. I'm not sure why. I think if Joe (not cobra) went back to hard military, it'd sell better. But then, it might look like Corps or BBI stuff. That's not so good.

02-15-2007, 12:05 PM	#310
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	Lehsreh. The original CC had a funky cut out to put his laser gun on. We are assuming that the 25th CC has it too. As for the paint schemes, these are still prototypes. I'm sure Justin wrote up a report somewhere. THere'll be small changes here and there but for the most part, those are the figures we are getting. I totally agree that the figures do NOT look better than the Hasbro mock-ups. Consider this too. Justin's pics are faaaaaaar better than any other websites so now you can really see the negatives. And yet, I'll still get these. Probably do another Joeverse for these. Like most of the figures that have been released, these need to be in YOUR hand for a real opinion. Hasbro has had a really bad time advertising their figures, imo. Take Major Barrage. Boring looking on the screen. MOC pics aren't all that neat either. But once you have him, he's really cool. Then again, you can't save Link Talbot any way you try! lol