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Old 06-18-2008, 10:24 AM #21
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I'd say pick up "Reinstated," the first one from the Image/Devil's Due run, and see if you like the updated Joeverse they present. If you do, continue from there as it's been pretty much a continuous story.

Or there's the first Frontline (spin-off series) one, which was a 4-issue story written by Larry Hama set right after the Marvel run ended. The rest of the Frontline series was set to run pretty much concurrently with the main series, just with shorter, sometimes standalone, stories focusing on one or two characters so again to best appreciate what's going on it helps to read the main story.
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Old 06-19-2008, 09:54 AM #22
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I talked to a comic guy over on the JBL. He says to expect...

1. The Joes to be in semi-classic outfits. Look at the current 25A toys for an idea of how they'll look.

2. There's a possibility that the 'couples' will be changed up. ie; SE & Scar? Maybe not.

3. While he didn't know what sort of role Zartan and his posse would have, it's NOT outside of the box that they could have the same sort of situation as with DD. ie; a nationwide organization doing whatever they did.

3a. It's possible that a character like Zanya will be part of this rebbot.

4. This is a reboot, NOT a re-invisioning (ala Reloaded).

5. Expect the characters to stay pretty much in character. Duke will not be a superspy, for example.

6. Moving forward with new characters or recently created ones (Crosshair, Dart, Plague, Barrel Roll, etc)? Doubtful simply cuz this is a reboot. Most of the DD stories will be thrown out. MOST.

This is all speculation, of course.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:18 PM #23
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sounds good to me. i know its bad to totally forget something that was great, but everyone has to agree that even with marvel things went wrong a long time before it was ender. as long as they keep the characters true and the outfits true to the characters, ill be happy. and i hope they do shake up the couple things, they can always come back later and have them get back together. its more realistic to think that they might have broken up somewhere along the way and dated other people before finding the one they would stay with.
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Old 06-19-2008, 12:45 PM #24
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Funny, I just got to thinking about this, and you know what? Maybe a fresh begining wouldn't be that bad. Start right back at ground zero. Intergrate what is going on in the world right now. Terrorism has large, well organized organizations and the Military forms an elite team to do something about it.

During the forming of this group, a shrewd dissadent (Who later becomes Cobra Commander) who has been using pyramid schemes, and maybe even a quasi-religious organization (think Scientology but used for early cobra recruitment). He begins an organization to make "the Perfect World" and goes from peaceful/political means to gathering guns for the future showdown with the evil agents of democracy. He runs across Destro in his gun dealing and gets introduced to the "Whos-Who" of terrorism (maybe even Osama Bin Laden) and manages to dissusade many of their disillusioned followers that HIS plan for the world is better.

Slowly he becomes more and more powerful much like Osama Bin Laden and his organization, until he IS the name and face (or faceless figure) behind global Terror! During the formation and workup phase of the new Task Force Echo (Code named "GI Joe"), they must shift gears between fighting little bands of poorly trained and organized terrorists and fighting a terrorist ARMY!

GI Joe's roster could be filled out by making billets like ;

Commander; Code name "Hawk": Currently held by Gen Clayton Abernathy
First Sergeant; Code name "Duke" Currently held by Conrad Hauser
Team Leader one; Code name "Stalker" Currently held by Lonzo Wilkinson

Then if a character dies, you can put a new person in the billet and they take that persons place. So it might be "Stalker" but it's no longer "Lonzo Wilkinson". This way Hasbro can still put out Quick-Kick, crankcase etc without having everyone saying "But they're dead!" And if they make the action figures "look" a little more generic, (think of old 1982 V1's) then if you have a character of someone who is long gone..."poof" Greenshirt replacement!

You could even have one of the Joes have a father or brother or uncle who is part of Cobra (think like the brother's Stall). Maybe one came from a poor rural community where Cobra convinced a lot of the people there the goverment is their enemy and Cobra is like the local Moose Lodge or Masonic Temple. Everyone is a card carrying and dues paying member thinking they are supporting lobbying in Washinton and the advancement of their own political veiws, when in reality the money is going to terrorism and attacks on civilian and military installations.

Entire towns and communities could be under cobra control and GI joe will have a hard time sorting out the "Hard Core Cadre" from the "conscripts". (Had to break out my communist manifesto books for THOSE terms!).

It could be the begining of a GREAT new world if they do it right and forget ninjas and clones!
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:07 PM #25
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yes frank, yes. welcome to the darkside. the next step is using profanity like smurf it and smurf you a lot. then, finally... buying the 25th, MUHAHAHAHA!
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GI Joe's roster could be filled out by making billets like ;

Commander; Code name "Hawk": Currently held by Gen Clayton Abernathy
First Sergeant; Code name "Duke" Currently held by Conrad Hauser
Team Leader one; Code name "Stalker" Currently held by Lonzo Wilkinson

Then if a character dies, you can put a new person in the billet and they take that persons place. So it might be "Stalker" but it's no longer "Lonzo Wilkinson". This way Hasbro can still put out Quick-Kick, crankcase etc without having everyone saying "But they're dead!" And if they make the action figures "look" a little more generic, (think of old 1982 V1's) then if you have a character of someone who is long gone..."poof" Greenshirt replacement!



seriously though, this part is great. a way to make it realistic by killing off key characters, but keeping the code names and everything the same. its not a code name for each character, rather a code name for the position held.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:09 PM #26
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As long as the new movie doesn't infect the reboot it should be worth checking out.
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Old 06-19-2008, 01:21 PM #27
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I have to disagree with you Ender. Multiple characters using the same name would ruin the individuality of the characters.

I'm all for killing characters for the sake of realism though. It doesn't have to stop them form doing new stories or making new figures of the dead characters. Just do a flashback, go back in the timeline before they died.
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