We are soo much alike!

Yes Frank's bio was quite good. On the 25th side of things, like my tag says, I'm old school, I love the old figures and vehicles. I really thought the line took a downturn in the 90's, but it bounced back in the 00's. Now it's on a downturn again. Although, I don't own any of the 25th line, I have seen them, and while I think detail wise, they are very nice, look wise, I find the limbs too long and skinny, I don't like the upper torso turning, and size wise, I can't see them fitting in the old vehicles, kind of reminds me of the Sgt Savage line, where the figs were slightly larger. As well, are they even releasing any 25th vehicles, and why would I want to spend cash on vehicles that unless I bought the entire 25th line, I may have only one or two figures for, it makes no sense to me. BOO Hasbro!

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This is a good thread to be sure. I am far more tolerant of the 25th than many others, and that's okay. But I think I am a minimalist as Craig has mentioned. I pick what I want and not what I think will bring nostalgia or re-sell well on eBay.

I like Beach-Head and was able to pick up a Firefly at retail. That is a solid sculpt, and although the paint apps could be better, I have a use for those 2 figures.

I am glad for the people on other forums who feel they need 5 of the same Zartan because his card is different, or multiple Snake-Eyes based on the color of his wolf. It's their cash, and because of Frank and other servicemen and servicewomen, it's a still a free country.

I am glad for those people because now Hasbro is going to release old school vehicles again. Some people will have the opportunity to pick up vehicles they never had, or could never afford before at retail instead of "well used" toys on eBay. Although some people will try and scalp them as well. Once again, it's a free country, and if they want to risk "investing" their money clearing out every Target within 250 miles of them, great for them.

When I picked up the aforementioned FF, I left a Cobra Trooper, two Beach-Heads, a Stalker, a Cobra Commander, a Buzzer and a Lady Jaye on the pegs for others. It is one thing to be caught up in the moment of nostalgia, and quite another thing to buy stuff that you never plan to use and hope you can gouge someone else on...

But you are correct. Someone will buy the good and the bad, and Hasbro's marketing/sales data will be skewered, if they look at sales numbers at all. And they won't understand what people really want.

Well said Yorky! You raised some good points that are worth reiterating. Like you said, it's a free country, so if people want five of the same figure because of minor variations, that's entirely their business, as it is if they want to buy everything and sell it on eBay for a profit. Personally, I've never understood the desire to leave stuff MOC or MIB. Heck, if I spend money on toys, I'm gonna use 'em! I guess that makes me more of a Joe fan rather than a Joe collector. The unfortunate aspect of this for me is that because Hasbro Toy Shop isn't interested in selling to anyone outside the US, I'm forced to deal with the scalpers or miss out.
You also raised a good point on buying what you want, not what might have a high re-sale price later on. People questioned me for customizing my M.O.T.H. sets and Con sets because of the effect on the re-sale value. Who cares? I'm never going to sell them anyway, so what does it matter?

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I completely argree with you Outrider. So not much to say other than ( and I type this as if HASBRO is reading):

If Hasbro wants to re-live the orignal figures and pay tribute to the 80's then ARAH should be the way to do it, It baffles me that you put out a Con set in ARAH style ( A pretty damn good one) and say you are celibrating the line, then you don't stick with what made you successful "the ARAH mold".

I understand that a lot of the molds of old are missing, but think about how much would be profited remaking the molds using the more defined heads and sending them on the street. Look at all of us Purist that refuse to buy the new line. That's revenue lost on us. Bottom line, if it's ARAH style, we buy if it's not we don't.

If you want to suck me into your new line, then forget the figures and just start putting all the accessories guns, webbelts, helmets, etc that come with them, in a battle pack.

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I didn't like the new 25th line that much when it came out and I was reading reviews and people said they were crapy. I just went 2 Florida last week and found a Cobra set I bought it and brought it back 2 the hotel and fell in love with them I love the detail and the figuers r great. Iwent and got the Joe pack and and they r really great 2 I then found some single packs I got 4 Cobras and a stalker he is my most fav fig right now. I do have a few problems with them though I dont like how they can't sit and how the arms go backwards it is very anoying and they dont hold the guns that well. but I really love these guys I do miss the o-ring and the 3 inch height they should of just kept the same size as the first guys. 1 of the best things about the cobras in wave 2 is that they have silver cobra logos it is a cheap way of making an army of viper pilots. Well thats what I think of the 25th line.

Cobra Freak

4.Ask them if there creative team ever comes to joedios.com

We check out almost all the fan sites on occasion, including dios. We
also keep an eye on the boards to hear what is going on. We just don't listen to this thread and the hundreds just like it. The 25th naysayers will shrivel up and die as soon as they realize we're NEVER gonna go back to 3 3/4inch ARAH molds as long as we can push crap onto the mindless masses of sheep that buy our JUNK!!!

Maybe I should shut the hell up! I just checked Hasbrotoyshop.com and all but two of their 25th figures are sold out!


Or maybe they stock HTS like they stock Walmart, Target and TRU.....
Wave one 5 packs anyone??

And I thought I could tell Hasbro and the retail chains off;

http://www.joedios.com/dioramas/sho...55137#post55137


http://www.popmatters.com/pm/column...-go-for-gi-joe/