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07-10-2007, 06:34 PM	#21
Urban Saboteur Legendary Saboteur Offline --> Posts: 2,138 --> Join Date: Apr 2007	She hasn't She hasnt lost friends. I'm not against moderisation. I just wish we could all get back to posting threads we can contribute in without bickering.. posting up pictures we like to look at.. sharing ideas with each other.. and being helpful. A few weeks ago GS summed everything up when she said to me "Hey rich, lifes too short you know?" and low and behold she was damn right.. Honestly.. Frank leaving is a massive deal.. and I don't expect this community to be proud of itself.. One thing we all need to do here is respect certain "Censored" media like the stuff that sometimes the board is spammed with will have to be deleted.. thats got to happen as you said Cap Max.. "we can't have billy asking about this to him mom" For that I appreciate what Pru does. I've said it once and I'll say it again I don't think moderisation is the problem. The problem appears to be that people are not focused on what they enjoy.. GIJOE!! __________________ My Sites Eternity Toys Superiorville Toy blog Urban Saboteur Stories Social Sites & Communities Facebook Flickr Tweet Me

07-10-2007, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Captain Max

Okay,you guys have got my German temper up.As has been said,don't take offense that isn't intended,but if the shoe fits.....

General Scarlett has been a hardworking friend to all of us! When I had a meltdown and quit the site,not only did she post asking me to come back( as many of you did ) she personally contacted me and talked me into rejoining because my presensce was valued. Now how do you think she feels now?Do you think she feels valued?

I'm not an expert at Forums,but I imagine that being an Admin is hard damned work! Clearing Spam,monitoring posts for content-more on that later!-and stuff that I'm sure I can't even imagine.And I somehow get the feeling that she isn't getting paid.....

GS has been a friend to everyone on this site,full of encouragement and advice-but sometimes she has to restrict content.We don't have "Free Speech" on a Moderated board that someone else owns-and remember,SOME things ARE inappropriate in a toy-based context,like reproductions of adult magazines....I personally read that mag,and I think it's classy and fun,with beautiful photography,it's not appropriate on a toy site where little Billy might spot it and ask his mommy "What's this?" Wait for the call from Hasbro's lawyers then!

And now the drama-I know a certain someone has driven many of us crazy,1 or 2 members in particular.....but we've let it harm this site,and harm the "fellow-feeling" of being Adults lucky enough to still be in love with our childhood favorites! I bounce around between several forums in a day.....and lately JD has had the feel of a shark pit,8-10 people on line and nobody posting a thread or anything.......are we burned out? Are we addicted to drama?Let me say,JoeBattleLines has been a LOT more fun lately.........

I don't know what to say about GS locking threads,except if any of us ever make Mod or Admin,we might have a different view........

I may have lost friends with this post.But I think General Scarlett is feeling like she's lost friends right now too.

I agree.
Im fairly new here- so have both the advantage of objectivity, and the disadvantage of barely knowing the characters that regularly post here.
What I will say is this- I wouldnt be a mod or admin for any cash in the world.
Its a no win situation, especially when conflict arises.
Since Ive been a member here, Ive found the vast majority of you to be helpful and friendly.
Im aware there are several issues, and political battles going on which I cant- and frankly have no interest in trying to- comment on.
Two of the people who I felt made me feel most welcome were Frank and Pru.
(the others I already knew).
Ill be very sad to see Ender go.

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07-10-2007, 07:01 PM	#23
ToneGunsRevisited O Bope vai te pegar Offline --> Posts: 8,547 --> Join Date: Jun 2006	You guys aren't here for long, listen, we did things always without having a mod here. I'm not saying old members are DA SHIT. I'm saying that a need for a mod appeared when the stupid child showed up first and started f*****k the place up. Than G. had to ask/received from Hammerfell the mod status. Look, if people doesn't like your photos, or you don't get the coments you want. Do you really need to start a thread about that? If you ship something to get a good karma. Do you really need to start a thread 'cuz people didn't be greatful and liked your feets? Geez guys and gals, don't change the whole subject here. We aren't trowing the problems over GS or over Graham. What people are trying to say is that we don't want everytime see a locked thread when bussiness are unfinished. Or ban people who always start stupid threads. Did peope out there listen about PM (my english is very poor, but PM means private message). Do your things in private, I don't have a need to know about "Why I didn't get my thankful?". Pru, read all the coments with a calm mind. Your attitute now is the type of attitute who starts all that we don't want here. D R A M A ! We have to look to critisism with better eyes. People get just to fast inside the shoes, as your are saying. __________________ ADSUMUS

07-10-2007, 07:13 PM	#24
Flatline THEY ARE NOT DOLLS!!! Offline --> Posts: 16,465 --> Join Date: Jun 2007	WHEN I FIRST FOUND THIS SITE I DIDNT HAVE A COMPUTER. SO WHEN I FINALLY GOT ONE THE FIRST THING I DID WAS JOIN IN. THIS IS MY FIRST EVER FORUM OR SITE TO JOIN IN. I'VE MADE A COOL FRIEND WITH JJSVIPERS AND I TRY TO POST THE BEST PHOTOS I CAN. FRANK'S PHOTOS OUTRIDER'S, URBAN SABATOUR'S, TONEGUNS' BEING MY PERSONAL FAVORITES TO EMULATE, AND TOO MANY OTHERS TO MENTION. THE ADVISE, THE TECHNIQUES AND INSPERATION I'VE GAINED FROM EVERY ONE HERE HAS BEEN UNMEASERABLE. ALL THE BICKERING HAS BEEN ALOT WORSE FOR OTHERS MORE THEN MYSELF I TRY TO JUMP IN ON THE FORUMS AND PROBLY SHOULD TRY MORE IN ORDER FOR YOU ALL TO KNOW ME AND VISE VERSA. I WOULD HATE FOR A GREAT PHOTOG AND VET TO LEAVE CAUSE IT WASNT ABOUT JOES OR THIS SITE. I DONT WANT TO LOSE THIS EXPERIANCE I SHARE IT WITH MY KIDS (WELL NOT THE BS FIGHTING) AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS.THEY SEE ALL THE QUALITY WORK AND THE COMMENTS ON MY FAVORITE SHOTS AND MY OWN. SO PLEASE I KNOW I'M NEW BUT DONT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME SELFISH ...... YES I WANT ALL THE GREAT GUYS TO STAY SCARLETT HAS BEEN SO COOL TOO I HOPE THIS DOESNT STEER YOU AWAY YOUR INCLUDED AS ONE OF THE GUYS THANKS ALOT, MARCOS aka FLATLINE __________________ MY FLICKR PAGE......

07-10-2007, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ToneGunsRevisited

....Pru, read all the coments with a calm mind. Your attitute now is the type of attitute who starts all that we don't want here. D R A M A ! We have to look to critisism with better eyes. People get just to fast inside the shoes, as your are saying.

Actually Luis, I have been 'looking with better eyes' and I ALWAYS retain a 'calm mind', even when it seems that I've had enough (and I do know and understand everything you've said....we've had enough IM chats that you know I 'speak your English')

But apparently, I have been looking too well..........and everyone's pissed off about that.

So now I won't look anymore.........it's obvious that this is the way Frank and the rest of you in the 'regime' want me to act as an Admin.......

And far be it for me to d*ck with the 'powers that be'.........I wonder if anyone would care to know how often I've soothed egos and tried to placate flame wars and gone to bat for all the people who think that I'm a completely ignorant B*tch.......

More times than any of you know...........and no matter what ANYONE thinks, I've strived to be fair with everyone.......even when they think I'm not!

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07-10-2007, 08:49 PM	#26
snakeeater Veteran Offline --> Posts: 362 --> Join Date: Jul 2006	Hi Frank, if you're still here I hope you reconsider. I like your work, and that's what this site is supposed to be about, sharing pictures and stories. I'm like some of the other people on here, and just ignore posts or threads that get out of hand, and focus on the stuff I want to see.

07-10-2007, 09:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ToneGunsRevisited

You guys aren't here for long, listen, we did things always without having a mod here. I'm not saying old members are DA SHIT. I'm saying that a need for a mod appeared when the stupid child showed up first and started f*****k the place up. Than G. had to ask/received from Hammerfell the mod status.

so true, i have been here a year and half as i said before. those who just joined this year do not know of how easy and fun it was around here. its easy to say this and that, but you werent around then. many have said its because there are so many new members now, that the newer members take 4 stars the wrong way and get mad. i dont know if thats true or not. im just saying when i joined i could come on here, look at all the great pics and feel like a kid again. i could post a few and if i got 2, 3 or 4 stars it was ok, it was just an honest opinion and i went on with my life. its hard for the newer member of this year to understand where were coming from.
in another note, what this thread is really about. frank if you ever read this, try this out. come on here, post a pic if you want, read some threads, look at some pics. just dont worry about writing or replying to anyone or anything. a few weeks ago i wrote on a thread that i had had enough of some things on here and wouldnt be posting much, not that i do as much as many of you anyway. but just steping back, stopping by once a day or every other day and just looking at the new pics and dios and reading some stuff without replying to anything helped a lot. just give it a try, no one ever need know you were here.

07-11-2007, 01:27 AM	#28
Outrider It's been a great ride! Offline --> Posts: 14,302 --> Join Date: Jun 2005	Okay, let's get one thing straight here. Prudence is not to blame for any of this mess. Imagine how much worse it would be around here if she hadn't kept things under control. It's unfortunate that the site got to the point where a mod was needed, but that's life. I defy anyone to do a better job than G or Prudence have done, on their own time and for little thanks and plenty of abuse. Have they made mistakes? Maybe, but I'm sure they would be the first to admit it. We all make mistakes because we are all fallible humans. As I've already stated in my earlier post, I hate it that Frank has decided to leave, and I've pm'd him with my thoughts and best wishes. I consider him a good buddy and want him to stay too. But Frank is an adult, and has made his own choice for his own reasons, and I respect that. I almost quit here myself once; but I realised I love the hobby, and the good people here too much to walk away. All we can do as responsible members is ignore the morons and enjoy the good stuff this site has to offer (and there's plenty of that). Oh, and howsabout we all show some respect to the Mods for the thankless task they do. __________________ "The future's uncertain and the end is always near." - The Doors "Roadhouse Blues".

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07-11-2007, 08:35 AM	#29
Uncle Flint Veteran Offline --> Posts: 168 --> Join Date: Mar 2006	OFF Topic A lot of stuff has been bounced around in this thread. People have certainly expressed their opinions on more than just Frank deciding to leave. I'm curious to know the cause of all this drama. I don't post much, but I check this site everyday and I have been doing so for well over a year and the tone of the site has certainly changed in recent months. What's the cause of all this drama? You can't tell it was all that little retard trying to get free figures. There's a lot more to it than that. I've kind of been of the opinion that it just an influx of members. I was of the opinion that when we only had a dozen people posting stuff there wasn't a need to police anything, but now with several dozen people hanging around a moderator was necessary. But I'm starting to think there more to it than just more people. What do you guys who have been here awhile think?

07-11-2007, 10:06 AM

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A lot of stuff has been bounced around in this thread. People have certainly expressed their opinions on more than just Frank deciding to leave. I'm curious to know the cause of all this drama. I don't post much, but I check this site everyday and I have been doing so for well over a year and the tone of the site has certainly changed in recent months. What's the cause of all this drama? You can't tell it was all that little retard trying to get free figures. There's a lot more to it than that. I've kind of been of the opinion that it just an influx of members. I was of the opinion that when we only had a dozen people posting stuff there wasn't a need to police anything, but now with several dozen people hanging around a moderator was necessary. But I'm starting to think there more to it than just more people. What do you guys who have been here awhile think?

I can't say that it is due to the newer members since honestly they pretty much seem to be the most polite and repectful members due to their new status. What the problem seems to be is that some verterans seem to take too much pride in their photos and when they don't get enough attention or the wrong comments, they take it as a direct insult and come up with consipiracy theories. Also some people seem to 'live' for this site more then just living in general. Their focus has been obscured.

As for General Scarlette, you have been performing a great job and I don't think you should take any comments here to heart and think we feel you are not needed. Take them as suggestions as to how the members would like the site to moded. The suggestions offered up dont' seem too outrageous. The main thing I got was that they would like the threads not to be locked too quick, give them a chance to work it out.

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