I think you'll have some "new" sculpt fans starting to feel like RAH purists, expecially if Wave 4 never comes to pass. Munitia might join Knock-Out in cancelled Cobras Hall of Shame...yeah, you're thinking "who's Knock Out?". One of the unreleased Ninja Commandos from 1994/1995.

There's buzz outside the Joe boards over these 25th figures, so I imagine these will reel some people in and back into Joe collecting. The only major thing than can ruin this line is if they charge too much for the figures. I've seen a few post by some gushers claiming they'd happily pay $10 each for these. That's not gonna fly with many people, especially non-Joe collectors (who can get figures three time the size of Joes for $10 or less) Star Wars' VOTC is a yearly release, lots of it went on clearance last year (it's still hanging around a few stores) and Star Wars is much more well known. Hype like that might give lurking corporate types the wrong impression about Joe fans.

Anyway, hopefully the comic packs will return...though with what style figure, I wouldn't care to guess. Hasbro loves to milk older Star Wars molds for all they can, even if there's a better version of a character available. New sculpt and RAH may not be "dead". (really tired of people saying that.)

The other things I worry about is Wal-Mart's corporate bullying (by refusing to buy what Hasbro makes) and Hasbro pretty much making so many toy lines that they might be concerned about competing against themselves or something.

Yup. Hear ya on the Walmart thing. If this thing goes to poo, it's gonna be WalMart. Nice to know there's buzz outside the Joe world. I know on the JBL, a whole lotta guys who used to be regulars are popping back in again. There's been a HUGE influx of noobs too.

You could still get the 3"3/4 online at hasbro shop probably but I think the stores will only sell S6 and 25 stuff. And if you look far back enough you might find a few old figs.

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This is a big opportunity, a brand new start.
We must hope (and buy!!!)...

But here is the question... if the 25th anniversary figures do really really well, and Hasbro decides to put 3.75" Joes back out again, will they all be this new 25th anniv. style, or will they go back to the cheaper new sculpt (2002) style?

I know a lot of people are bashing these new 25th anniv. figure sculpts. I personally like them, and think it is a great direction to be going in. Things change and you can't expect the toys from 1982 to do well at retail right now, sure I'd buy them, but I am in my mid 30's, I have three son's right now, and I can tell you for a fact, it my two oldest sons had a choice to buy 3.75" or Sigma-6 Joes, they'd buy the Sigma-6 Joes, things are just different and the kids now are used to a different type of toy.

I have been in Walmart a couple times the last few weeks and have seen young boys with their Mom's or Dad's asking for Sigma-6 stuff. One kid was looking at Snake Eyes and saying something like "Wow, look at the cool Dog he has! I want it!" I honestly think (from my experience as being a parent of kids who are into toys right now), that if the 25th Anniv. figures were on the shelf next to Sigma-6, they would buy Sigma-6... UNLESS either the packages are kick @$$ and draw their attention, OR the price point is worked in such a way that the kid would want them over Sigma-6 (which means the kids would have to be 9+ years old or so to be able to do the math in their head), but if the price point is $10 for a 3.75" figure and only a couple of dollars more for a big Sigma-6 guy, then I can't see a kid wanting the 3.75" figure...

As for the 2.5" line, my oldest son like the vehicles, but hates the little 2.5" guys, in fact, the only sets he has wanted were the sets with vehicles, because the non-articulated figures just don't cut it for the kids. My Wal-Mart has all their 2.5" stuff on the clearance Isle, while they are constantly restocking the 8" line.

What price point would make kids want the 25th anniv. Joes? I'd say less than $7 per figure, or priced in such a way that they could get 2 figures for the same price as 1 Sigma-6 figure. Also parents would be more likely to buy them if the price point was setup that way to.

In either case, the person that was thinking about Wal-Mart earlier (can't remember who wrote that message now - sorry) was correct, Wal-Mart would once again be competing against itself and I think that both the 25th Anniv. line and the Sigma-6 line would suffer there if that was the case.

I personally can not wait for the 25th Anniv. Joes to come out, I will certainly buy a full set for myself, and if they are single carded I'll buy probably a few of the Cobra Soldiers... if they are multi-packs or 5-packs, I won't be buying multiples to get the Soldiers... but I will be buying 1 full set either way... As for kids, my personal experience says that they won't be into them as much as they are the Sigma-6 stuff (the cartoon helps with that too).

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Actually, the 3.75" was put on 'hiatus' from the B&M on purpose. That info came to light just as VvV was wrapping up. VvV was also extended 6 months to get that last wave out (which was, W7 or W1 of Robot Rebellion). It wasn't necessarily all Hasbro's doing. George Lucas and Walmart had pull to get 3.75" off the shelves.

Take a look. His v1 came w/ an explosives satchel. Hasbro is literally going back to 1982 and giving them modern sculpting techniques. Well, give or take a few lil things but they are trying to honor the old stuff.

And yes, I merged the threads cuz I wanted to keep all discussion in 1 spot.

Snake Eyes and his hand bag

For my other version 1 Snake Eyes, I'll choose one to customize based on the cells that I've seen from season 1 of the cartoon. I'll use flesh tone paint on his hands and will try to get that darkish blue going with more highlights on his visor. Anyway,this one is the best version 1 so far