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Old 02-11-2010, 02:04 AM #11
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Rollbar came with the Jungle Strike and Night Ops Humvees. The Rollbar that came with the Snarler Cycle might as well be a new Airborne or Hit & Run version as he is the same sulpt and accesories.

And just to add to the confusion, the Rmapage that looked like Heavy Metal had the same file name. So between Heavy Metal, Speed Metal and Rampage you've got two different characters.

Heavy Metal v1 from 85, Rampage v1 from 89 and Speed Metal from 09 all have the same file name. Rampage v1 from 89 was laft over stock from South America and he is designated as the Mauler driver so if he's a new character why does he have the same name as Heavy Metal? Dunno.

Now, Beach Head wannabe Rampage and the Driver of the RHINO are both Rampage and have the same file name.

The RHINO driver Rampage does look like an updated, 25th version of Heavy Metal v1, where as Speed Metal looks nothing like Heavy Metal v1. Both Beach Head wannabe Rampage and Mauler driver Heavy Metal are armour drivers so this could be why Rampage is the RHINO driver, though if it were up to me, and Hasbro has yet to get back to me for my opinion on anything (bastards), I'd have made the RHINO driving Rampage be Heavy Metal and have Rmpage retain his Beach Head wannabe look. Speed Metal could be an all new character.

Seriuosly wish Hasbro would have signed longer trademark rights that way Rock & Roll wouldn't be that chainsaw weilding guy and Clutch wouldn't be Double Clutch.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:46 AM #12
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You can't trademark common names/words, thus you get guys real names or "G.I. Joe" or either "blast" "double" "sgt" tacked onto existing codenames.


I find the whole Heavy Metal to Speed Metal transition to be something that is far too clever for Hasbro to have come up with intentionally, but maybe they called him Speed Metal because much like the music the figure is terrible
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:51 AM #13
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I remember that! I snagged 3 RHINOS and 2 ROCCs. (I used them for Christmas Presents!) I also snagged about 10 Major Barrages for like $1.99. Man, those WENT fast!

I LOVE the Rhino. (ok, I'm not thrilled about that helo in the middle,)but it reminds me of the APC in Aliens!

Man, the helos are cool, be more friendly with them .
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Old 02-11-2010, 01:52 PM #14
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You can't trademark common names/words, thus you get guys real names or "G.I. Joe" or either "blast" "double" "sgt" tacked onto existing codenames.

I find the whole Heavy Metal to Speed Metal transition to be something that is far too clever for Hasbro to have come up with intentionally, but maybe they called him Speed Metal because much like the music the figure is terrible


OK, I undestand the trademark thing there, makes sence, but couldn't Hasbro copyright or trademark "Rock & Roll" as a character name?

The Heavy Metal to Speed Metal was kind of clever. Kinda makes me wonder if there's going to be a whole seriese of armour drivers, Heavy Metal, Speed Metal, Death Metal, Progressive Metal, Power Metal, etc...

Oh in your description of the music, you spelled "kick-ass" wrong. (Using italics highlighted the mis-spelling) Though, the figure does leave something to be desired.
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I guess Beach-Head fan Rampage switched idols to Heavy Metal, who just HAPPENED to have used the same codename in his earlier days. And so by the time he was driving the RHINO, now-Heavy Metal-fan Rampage had changed his appearance to look like his new hero (even to the point of bleaching his skin white). And the joke's on him, as Heavy Metal (now codenamed Speed Metal) has changed his own look with a razor and peroxide.

I think it's all a huge scam on the part of the Joes (I'm also looking at you, "Double Blast" and "Whiteout") where the same guys are cashing multiple paychecks.
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Old 02-11-2010, 03:47 PM #16
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I think it's all a huge scam on the part of the Joes (I'm also looking at you, "Double Blast" and "Whiteout") where the same guys are cashing multiple paychecks.

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I call the guy that came with my RHINO from Target "Heavy Metal" because he looks like the one that came with my Mauler when I was a kid, but he washed his face. I dont have "Speed Metal" because it is a crappy fig that came in a crappy 3 pack. I had never heard of Speed Metal before and I think it is kind of a dumb name. With the 25A stuff, who really cares what they are called? Dataframe is Mainframe, etc. I throw away the file cards anyway.
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Old 02-11-2010, 04:41 PM #18
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I throw away the file cards anyway.


That's because all you read are Jack Chick comics.



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Oh in your description of the music, you spelled "kick-ass" wrong. (Using italics highlighted the mis-spelling) Though, the figure does leave something to be desired.


Hahahaha! I wasn't talking about Rock 'N Roll and Bench Press
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Old 02-11-2010, 09:13 PM #19
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Hasbro should be recognized as being environmentally friendly. The whole GI Joe line these days is based on recycling both sculpts and names. It's all they do since they lost the power of creativity.


Not to mention Characters (aka REPAINTS!!) ...hey, it's "Neon-Glow,wall-Climbing, Web=slinging, Urban-Jungle Gay nightClub Camoflauge Duke!" (Just that long sarcastic name makes me wanna see what hasbro could come up with for that!!)


I took the Beach Head from the snarler and with a little eqipment Change "Viola!"...I made a LBC Wreckage! If they have such an issue with Generic names being Copyrighted, I wonder what kind of flack they are getting on the Transformers side of the house. "Ravage", "soundwave", "wheelie". I wonder why they get to keep their generic names?

I ALWAYS thought of the GI joe Team as having each Code name assigned to a billet. For Example, "FLASH" is their Laser Specialist. So when Anthony Gambello got killed with Blaine Parker (MAinFrame) The just got a new guy to be "Flash", and take over his resposibilities and code name! Same thing with "MainFrame". There might be "MainFrame" on the team now, but his real name is different!.
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Old 02-11-2010, 10:03 PM #20
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This topic got to me thinking...Mauler driving Heavy Metal became Speed Metal, Rock & Roll became Bench Press, Dial Tone got a sex change... since the release of the 25th and RoC style figures, has there been an entirely new Joe character introduced? The only one I can think of off hand is Agent Helix and maybe Specialist Trakker (but does he count as "new" since he's based on an older figure from another toy line?).
Near as I can tell, the last new Joe characters were Med-Alert, the Steel Brigade, and lady Doc.
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