 |
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
|
 |
03-14-2009, 04:47 PM
|
#11
|
aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;)
Offline
-->
Posts: 7,751
-->
Join Date: Jul 2005
|
Hasbro pretty much can't reveal a thing. There are some laws that most likely prohibit them from confirming a lot. IF we asked, "Will we get a Resolute Heavy Duty?" they most likely can't say YES or NO because if it doesn't happen, then people will call out the lawyers. "YOU PROMISED US A HEAVY DUTY!!!" or "WHY CAN'T HE BE MADE???" Anyway...
|
|
|
03-14-2009, 05:31 PM
|
#12
|
Veteran
Offline
-->
Posts: 3,536
-->
Join Date: Nov 2007
|
How did that Prisoner figure question A. get chosen and B. get presented without going through spell check?
Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Knight
Are you kidding? The 25th line drew kids out of the woodwork, and they weren't intended for them. The movie toys are geared towards kids... "lights & sounds", "firing launchers", "push-button" technology, all of the movie toys are build and designed to entertain kids. Hasbro could give a crap about the "collectors", we are but a few dollors to them compared to the vast out numbering of parents/kids vs collectors.
The new Night-Raven has a lowering grip for "enhanced play".
The PIT has "electronic lights & sounds"
Each figure comes with a "rocket launcher" thingy...
...I rest my case.
|
I'd like some proof that kids are into G.I. Joe. Kids aren't stupid, they use the internet. However most message boards do not have children posting. Care to cite an example that kids came out of the woodwork for the 25th line?
G.I. Joe is a niche market it has been since 1997. The line sold badly when they tried making it kid friendly (CG VvV and Spytroops movies, Sigma Six). The 25th line was the most succesful the line had been in decades and why? It was the new hot collectible line. If you notice lot's of guys hate figures that don't look like they were the 1985 figure.
The movie toys are geared towards kids, does that mean they're gonna be succesful? no. Were Indiana Jones toys that succesful, they had gimmicks too (If you say "yes" too the Indiana Jones toys being succesful I'd like to know what your dream world is like because succesful toylines don't get clearanced out for like a buck a figure)
|
|
|
03-14-2009, 06:32 PM
|
#13
|
aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;)
Offline
-->
Posts: 7,751
-->
Join Date: Jul 2005
|
Actually the themes did quite well. And Sigma6 went over better than Hasbro planned. Kids were buying them. The adult market makes up what, less than 12%?
And when comparing movie lines, consider that movie toys are usually produced twice as much as a regular non-tv or non-movie line.
|
|
|
03-14-2009, 07:09 PM
|
#14
|
Cobra R & D
Offline
-->
Posts: 4,001
-->
Join Date: Nov 2008
|
Personally, my gut feeling is that Hasbro is optimistic that the movie will bring huge crowds of kids to buy the Joe toy line. Sounds like the same optimism I heard concerning another big film, Indiana Jones.
I don't have kids, but I would be interested to know if anyone here who has children if they can comment on what action figures they are interested in, including Joe. Do kids now-a-days still watch Saturday morning cartoons?
On the bright side, I often saw crowds of parents buying Star Wars figures this past Christmas. Clone Wars seem to have struct a chord with the kids. Parents on cell phones talking to someone saying "she already has Padme, she wants a General Grevous. How does that look?"
I wish it was "she already has Scarlett, she wants a Resolute Duke. How does he look?"
The 80's were the golden years for GI Joe... cartoon of okay quality; Transformers cartoon either before or after Joe; an awesome comic book series and a number of spinoffs; fantastic toys that were highly articulate compared to other lines. I truly hope the Hasbro magic is still there. Because in these hard economic times, Hasbro best give me good reason to spend my hard earned money on good toy line, else there are electronics I could easily spend money on instead.
__________________
*~~~{==========- Death at Midnight -==========}~~~*
|
|
|
03-14-2009, 07:21 PM
|
#15
|
G.I. Smurf
Offline
-->
Posts: 3,446
-->
Join Date: Jan 2006
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Roland da Thompson Gunner
How did that Prisoner figure question A. get chosen and B. get presented without going through spell check?
|
the prisoner question got picked because no one took the time to submit any questions. if you had something better to ask, it was there for everyone.
as for spell check, that is for people with less confidence and who actually care if a word is right, not me.
|
|
|
03-14-2009, 08:44 PM
|
#16
|
ARAH for O-ringers
Offline
-->
Posts: 6,074
-->
Join Date: Dec 2007
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Scuba Steve
Judging by all the answers on the other sites I think next QnA the one question asked should be:
Is there anything you HAVE information on and CAN tell us about the Joe line?
|
Prolly Answer: "Thanks for the idea, but there are no plans for this right now."
BTW... O-ring related questions werent allowed...
__________________
HEROES DON'T DIE, THEY JUST RELOAD
|
|
|
03-15-2009, 12:19 AM
|
#17
|
Veteran
Offline
-->
Posts: 3,536
-->
Join Date: Nov 2007
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by lehsreh
the prisoner question got picked because no one took the time to submit any questions. if you had something better to ask, it was there for everyone.
as for spell check, that is for people with less confidence and who actually care if a word is right, not me.
|
Well "cloths" is different from "Clothes". Where was the "Submit Questions for Hasbro Q&A" thread, I sure didn't see one. And really it's a "Uh why don't you make something no one but me really wants" type of question
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sonneilon
Actually the themes did quite well. And Sigma6 went over better than Hasbro planned. Kids were buying them. The adult market makes up what, less than 12%?
And when comparing movie lines, consider that movie toys are usually produced twice as much as a regular non-tv or non-movie line.
|
Sigma 6 I might give you, considering I didn't really pay attention to it and know that now they can't even give the figures away (seriously they do Spend so much $ and get a free Sigma joe deals) but I'm unsure on the themes.
|
|
|
03-15-2009, 10:33 AM
|
#18
|
aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;)
Offline
-->
Posts: 7,751
-->
Join Date: Jul 2005
|
The themes did well enough. But by VvV, they WERE losing steam. It's hard to say what the problem was. It'd be real easy to blame the buyers but the big Corporations had a lot to say in how ALL the themes were marketed. THere were conspiracy theories like, "Walmart purposely bought up Wave6 of VvV (the elusive Torch wave) and they made sure Hasbro did a stupid theme so they could make way for the CORPS figure which cost less but turn around a larger profit FOR Walmart."
I never figured out the theme thing until VvV when everyone on JBL was talking about 'themes' and hasbro wanted to churn a theme out every year (or two). That's when I realized Spy Troops and JvC were JUST a theme (just as S6/Robot Rebellion were). It's hard to say what is considered successful in Hasbro terms. Were the small joes REALLY floundering?
The rescaling of Sigma6 was another Big3 move as well as Hasbro's to get more kids into it. Unfortunately, the bottom dropped out when the cartoon was pulled.
DTC was pretty much a disaster in every way possible. Sure, the figures were half-half in terms of design and quality, but online-only??? That was an exercise for Hasbro to see if the so-called 'adult fanbase' CAN support the line. The answer is NOPE.
It's hard to say NOW just how much stroke the Big3 have with Hasbro. I feel that it's lessened somewhat with the several online store offerings (the enviromental packs, for example).
As for the movie toys, I'm guessing it's geared for the kids. It'll sound LAME on my side, but if my vehicles can't shoot a rocket or something, it's kinda boring. I got spoiled with the coolness of the NAC and Thunderwing firing away it's rockets. Then to go back to a re-release pink Conquest or Bronze Rattler and it's like, 'meh'. That's just how I feel on it and I'll have to duck fast to evade those tomatoes you guys are ready to sling!
IF you guys looked at the offerings that Hasbro is doing for the movie, you'll see there'll be backpacks, costumes (adult and kid), shoes, hats, Battleship, Monopoly, and a ton of other toy tie-ins. Hasbro is going all out on this one. I just hope it works.
|
|
|
03-15-2009, 12:31 PM
|
#19
|
Tactical Specialist
Offline
-->
Posts: 998
-->
Join Date: Aug 2008
|
Quote:
Originally Posted by Death_at_Midnight
I don't have kids, but I would be interested to know if anyone here who has children if they can comment on what action figures they are interested in, including Joe. Do kids now-a-days still watch Saturday morning cartoons?
|
I have a 4 y/o girl who is into some action figures... all her little boy friends are between 4 and 8 y/o and so my experience comes from them and for working at Toys R Us. The action figures kids are into these days are (in order of sales) Star Wars, Transformers, GI Joe , & Ben 10. I don't know about Saturday morning cartoons, but I know "Clone Wars" is a huge thing with kids.
As far as my comments reguarding Hasbro gearing GI Joe towards kids... My friends Grandpa is the former Vice President of Hasbro, so I think I like to believe in my sources.
Indiana Jones figures didn't go over so well for multiple reasons, one major one being alot of parents wouldn't let their kids see the movie when it first hit theaters, but instead made the kids wait a week or until it hit dollor theaters. The figures suffered for that, among many other reasons... marketing is one. The GI Joe movie figures are probably gonna suffer the same if not simular fate... the collectors won't want them, the kids will want them, but parents will so no.
|
|
|
03-18-2009, 03:20 PM
|
#20
|
Veteran
Offline
-->
Posts: 505
-->
Join Date: Mar 2005
|
Two things worry me about Hasbro's current marketing strategy for Joe:
1) Movie or bust. Why not market the characters in their classic looks right alongside the new? Transformers seems to be doing well with this. If the movie tanks, collectors aren't going to have anything to latch onto or keep going with. It seems that a scaled down line targeting collectors would be good PR. With the cartoon dvd's coming back to market to advertise just such a line, it seems like a no-brainer. I almost wonder if they're just keeping mum on more collector-oriented plans to get more tongues wagging about movie product.
2) Too bleepin' expensive! Joe costs have been escalating over the past year, and all indications point to movie stuff being even higher. With that being aimed largely at kids, it's going to fall to their parents to buy them. Price points have a much greater negative effect on parents buying for kids than they do on collectors, I suspect.
|
|
|
Thread Tools |
|
Display Modes |
Linear Mode
|
Posting Rules
|
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts
HTML code is On
|
|
|
Powered by: vBulletin Version 3.0.6 Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Style Design By: vBStyles.com
|
 |