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Old 02-03-2009, 05:15 PM #11
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I understand the concern over lack of new characters, but I don't think the "Hall of Heroes" assortment should be singled out for this. It was supposed to be re-releases from the very beginning! Months ago, Hasbro had people vote on their favorite 25th Anniversary figures from all the single-carded waves to date (at that time), with the promise that the ten winners would be released in special packaging with new decos. We can't really target something for being exactly what we were told it was going to be, can we?
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Old 02-03-2009, 05:30 PM #12
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I understand the concern over lack of new characters, but I don't think the "Hall of Heroes" assortment should be singled out for this. It was supposed to be re-releases from the very beginning! Months ago, Hasbro had people vote on their favorite 25th Anniversary figures from all the single-carded waves to date (at that time), with the promise that the ten winners would be released in special packaging with new decos. We can't really target something for being exactly what we were told it was going to be, can we?
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:08 PM #13
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the problem for me is the price point. I hate that after 2 years of the line I have to pay so much for fixed figures that came out wrong in the first place. To me its just a big "Why?" Why not make these great versions to begin with.
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Old 02-03-2009, 06:41 PM #14
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That's right! People did vote on gijoe.com for this!
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Old 02-03-2009, 08:07 PM #15
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the problem for me is the price point. I hate that after 2 years of the line I have to pay so much for fixed figures that came out wrong in the first place. To me its just a big "Why?" Why not make these great versions to begin with.

I suspect there's no real old-school GI Joe fans working at Hasbro in the last couple years.
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the problem for me is the price point. I hate that after 2 years of the line I have to pay so much for fixed figures that came out wrong in the first place. To me its just a big "Why?" Why not make these great versions to begin with.


Why bother putting the effort into the line if people buy the crap anyway?
Extra time and resource into a line that's already selling.. you really think hasbro would care about the consumer that much??

By the way your point emphasizes alot on what I've said all along about the 25th line. We were initially promised a product that would be an improvement on the RAH style and previous lines..
I ask how can a figure line be an improvement if the entire waves and series have just as many flaws as the previous waves and releases?

My single point about hasbro was that they lied outright from the start, got sloppy in QC and held off the product to a point where fans were literally 'starved of teh line' as i said in the other thread.. if you offer someone a choice of
"shit product" or "no product" they'll usually 9 times out of 10 take the shit stuff (assuming they've been denied for so long).

Please dont hate on my opinion (as I know that alot of this site is seperated on opinion for/against the 25th) I can only call this from my own viewpoint and what was advertised back before the 25th was released. I know that hasbro doesnt judge their line based on if fans like it or not, it's all about the sales.. and for that I can't fault them, for other collectors the 25th has been a blessing, to get back all the other stuff they missed out on in the last 15-20 years and thats great.. but for a fan who was in it from the start.. it's kind of like a huge slap in the face with a 40lb trout.. and then hasbro not apologising.

I'm done ranting..
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Old 02-04-2009, 09:23 AM #17
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the problem for me is the price point. I hate that after 2 years of the line I have to pay so much for fixed figures that came out wrong in the first place. To me its just a big "Why?" Why not make these great versions to begin with.


I 100% agree, the price point isholding me off a bit, I can get microman figures for that in many places. Plus I am 90% certain the molds will be released again somewhere. But price is a key factor for me as well that I didn't mention.

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My single point about hasbro was that they lied outright from the start, got sloppy in QC and held off the product to a point where fans were literally 'starved of teh line' as i said in the other thread.. if you offer someone a choice of


No offence intended, but hasbro has been lying so much for so long I hardly notice any more. I gave up with AA Storm Shadow back in the VvV days (If you don't remember, Hasbro said that they would never, ever produce another T-Crotch figure at the con that year, meanwhile this figure was in production at the time and right after fan outrage hit they claimed there was a retool, but of course they had JUST lied so who knew, thankfully that time they were truthfull as it was my absolute favorite SS to date, but hopefully you see where I am going).

But my point is I just don't notice anymore
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I 100% agree, the price point isholding me off a bit, I can get microman figures for that in many places. Plus I am 90% certain the molds will be released again somewhere. But price is a key factor for me as well that I didn't mention.



No offence intended, but hasbro has been lying so much for so long I hardly notice any more. I gave up with AA Storm Shadow back in the VvV days (If you don't remember, Hasbro said that they would never, ever produce another T-Crotch figure at the con that year, meanwhile this figure was in production at the time and right after fan outrage hit they claimed there was a retool, but of course they had JUST lied so who knew, thankfully that time they were truthfull as it was my absolute favorite SS to date, but hopefully you see where I am going).

But my point is I just don't notice anymore


No worries mate.. No offence taken
I'd like you to explain your paragraph a little better though please.

You say that hasbro lied about a retool and then it turned out it was a retool and so you accepted it?
Or are you just mentioning that Hasbro has lied so much in the last 15 years or so that it's not worth even bringing up/noticing.

Apologies, I've read your paragraph 3 times and it confuses me, perhaps you can think of a better way to rephrase it or a better example.
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Old 02-04-2009, 11:18 AM #19
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Honestly, I don't know how people felt towards the Venomized Troops. Horrible concept, so-so figures (really hit and miss, Outrider DOES like his Swamp Rats, y'know?), and then a few hits.


Yeah, I like my Swamp Rats, but in my Joeverse they ain't "venomized". Worst concept ever (well, except perhaps for Cobra La).
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Old 02-04-2009, 02:30 PM #20
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i actually think they look good, I mean i was not able to catch up with most of the decent figures of the line but now they made them look cooler in my opinion.
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