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Old 06-16-2008, 12:35 AM #11
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I'm with outrider on this one... My joeverse is based on the Marvel line (minus some REALLY stupid stuff, like Star Brigade etc..)

But in my Joeverse the battle of Benzheen has not happened yet (or it never will, dont know yet)...cos otherwise I cant use all the awesome figures that died during that event...

But rebooting would not affect my joeverse at all... And as much as I like the Americas elite storyline... I think they are trying to kill too many characters, so that is just a fun read to me, but not "canon"... more like possible future etc...
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Old 06-16-2008, 03:50 AM #12
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I'll probably buy the first issue (or two, what with advance ordering -- my comic store doens't order GI Joe comics for the shelves as they wouldn't sell...) but chances are I'll not bother.

What I'll be curious about is what of the characters' histories will they choose to acknowledge and what will they drop? Like where will the cutoff point be?

The idea of starting over from where the Marvel run left off seems a bit pointless, since that's what DDP did and why would the people asking for this be satisfied with what IDW would do any more than they were with DDP? Plus people seem to forget that by the end, the Marvel series was pretty dire anyway in most respects. Getting Larry Hama to follow up on the end is also something DDP did already with the first story-arc in the Frontline series.

Really, it feels like a reboot will be more work than continuing the 25-year-long history (something Transformers didn't have when IDW started with them) and just done for the sake of being different, and to use the relatively tiny number of characters who've been killed off (like Crank Case is going to do anything significant -- most of the dead Joes, people only cared about them after they died!).

I feel the same towards Marvel's Ultimate line of comics -- I'd rather read about the characters I know and care about than people who just look like them, and waste my time trying to figure out what's the same and what's different while reading storylines that are just "edgy," post-modern takes on what's been done before that depend on a familiarity with the REAL stories for a large part of their impact...
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:34 AM #13
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I don't know. I tired of the DD stuff. Just lost interest because I enjoyed doing my own thing. I'd LIKE to think DD had some good ideas going, but when I actually think about it, I can't really remember anything.

I'd love to say, "I loved how DD had Crosshair and Dart show up in the comic." BUT those were NOT DD creations, those were Hasbro creations. Therefore, I can NOT give DD credit for those two particular characters and their portrayals.

Duke as a super-spy during the 'down' years? I kinda go for it, but I still see Duke as the All-American Hero from the cartoon.

I WILL give DD that the creation of Zanya and Firewall were excellent additions.





Personally, if there's a toy for the figure, they exist (since 2002 at least). Therefore, if Quick Kick comes back, he'll exist. We already have a 25A Lady Jaye so she's alive and kicking DESPITE what the comic tried to pull. And like some others have said, I use cloning technology so in theory, anyone can come back. (However, Mindbender is DEAD so he ain't coming back regardless.)

Maybe I'll see how the comic is. Maybe I won't. I'll let YOU guys give reports and see what's up.
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Old 06-16-2008, 09:59 AM #14
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Ok 1st Can't wait to see what the New Comicbook writers will do!!! Will I read every issue? HELL YES, It's G.I. JOE!!!! Will it affect my Joeverse? NO. I pick and choose what I want from ALL Aspects of G.I. Joe, the Comics, the Cartoons, Filecards & My own Mind!!! I hope they will bring back certain characters they killed off in the comic, if they don't, it will be ashame, but they'll always be alive in my Joeverse!!!! Nuff said!!!
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Old 06-16-2008, 11:45 AM #15
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In terms of my own Joeverse, since the established history basically IS my Joeverse (anything I do is representative of it or interwoven while avoiding any contradiction), if nobody's continuing it professionally then I'll probably end up doing that myself (like other dio-authors did back before the '02 relaunch).
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Old 06-16-2008, 06:43 PM #16
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I think I will pretty much continue with the storylines I have going. If IDW reboots the story at all, I will probably read it and hopefully enjoy it, and maybe even incorporate any good ideas into my storyline, but I don't plan on changing my current storyline to follow their book.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:26 AM #17
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I'll see the comic first before passing full judgement on it (as to me it's more a matter of how it's executed) but I won't mind a reboot. To be honest I wasn't too big on DD's following Marvel and making the series realtime in that everyone was 10 years or more older etc, it just didn't work IMO. Reloaded started alright IMHO but sort of lost the path as it went on. I liked the second Dreamwave Joe/Transformers (the one after the WWII version) take on the joe team, had some interesting elements such as Flint and Shipwreck being good buddies, the mystery of Flint's animosity towards Spirit, too bad that never went beyond issue one due to Dreamwave going bust. A reboot isn't too bad since it does allow newcomers to get into the series quickly and for the oldtimers among us, a fresh look. And frankly, if the 25th is going to largely recycle all the old line without new characters, a reboot would keep things slightly fresh ( as it is I dislike the fact that Joe is becoming too much like SW in that you get either same character in same uniform with just new sculpt and articulation or multiple repaints rather than new uniform or look though this is really for another thread ) Not disparaging the old Marvel continuity (DD is another matter though ) but it might be time just to start the slate fresh.
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Old 06-17-2008, 08:15 AM #18
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To say Lady Jaye is dead is laughable. I bought a figure of her in the toyline and her filecard mentioned no such death. The mail in offer said Doc was captured by Cobra, but yet he's dead in the comic, so which is it? Heh.

The bottom line, GIJoe is all about iconic characters that surpass any particular media. I truly believe that. I'm not saying someone is taking a dirt nap just because of some long past comic from the 80s.

I do hope the comic does a complete reboot so we can finally have a fresh take on the property. Its time for the GIJoe comic to seek out new ground, not living in the nostalgia of the Hama-verse. That story is DONE and 'picking up' after 155 is pointless, completely pointless. It would just be another splitter verse that always lives in the shadow of Hama, with people rationalizing, hey, its not as bad as DD's run. Whoopee!

My Joe verse is a lot of the Sunbow toon, with a little of DIC, S6, and a bit of the comics thrown in for spice. I feel Sunbow had the best characterization, voice work was topnotch, and it cut through the crap, Cobra was always trying to take over the world!
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Old 06-17-2008, 02:28 PM #19
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I feel Sunbow had the best characterization, voice work was topnotch, and it cut through the crap, Cobra was always trying to take over the world!


thank you, nice to know others on here use the toon as their influence. and yeah, i do want a reboot. but you know, it would be cool if they take big events like the birth of serpentor and the cobra civil war and retold them from a different perspective.
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Old 06-18-2008, 08:28 AM #20
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I haven't read the comic since the Marvel days. I've been thinking of picking up a TPB of the new comics but don't know what's good. Does anybody have a recommendation?
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