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10-14-2007, 04:09 PM
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What is keeping me in G.I.Joe?
Actually.. Nothing. Before I begin..
*please note* my outburst isn't meant to offend anyone reading, however it is purely my own experiences and own opinion, of which I believe i'm entitled to.
Which is why I'm quitting. I'll probably keep one or two figures but i've had it, bored of the constant trype hasbro keeps feeding and expecting consumers to pay good money on.
They don't release such utter bull crap in any other toy line other than the GIJOE one.. I don't know what everyone see's in the 25th.
They have b**** ***s.. and bandy legs.. and also are completely poorly designed in the characters view too.
Baroness & Gung-Ho are quite possibly the worse of these.
There's nothing to keep me into G.I.JOE, all hasbro has done is cast out cheap, dry coloured crap and everyone seems to like it.. hmm I might go into the s**t shovveling business and repackage it with a hasblow logo.
The only decent figures that they released were back in the late 80s.
The figures and vehicles have to change with the times and modernise.. How true.. I agree but not under the guise or sacrifice of quality and decent releases.
The problems that have plagued the 25th line.. I hear excuses such as:
1) ooh just sand down some of the torso or dremel a bit away..
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2) they'll get it right come wave 4 or 5.
Oh wonderful so not only is the collector dillusional and stupid but hasbro are too. Obviously you'll have to give hasbro time to perfect these soldiers.. because they've never released figures to a mass market before
Pur-lease.. hasbro has experience and the financial clout to give us what we want... but they lack however one main ingredient.. control over their own greed.
They want us to buy this hunk of crap and hutch of pish.. and as long as there are the severe deluded out there high on the wave of the 25th celebrations all to willing to part with their cash.. and take their soldiers home to fix hasbro's problems... why should they change?
Hasbro are completely ignorant to the GI JOE line, they have been since the last waves of the 90s. I didnt want neon figures.. and i dont think many other kids did too, but we still got them.. I'm slowly beginning to hate something that I once loved.
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10-14-2007, 04:44 PM
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yeah, uh. tell us how you really feel. seems someone else has caught jay's nay saying. and everyone talks bad about me for hating snake eyes,lol.
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10-14-2007, 04:49 PM
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Yeah uh...
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Originally Posted by lehsreh
yeah, uh. tell us how you really feel. seems someone else has caught jay's nay saying. and everyone talks bad about me for hating snake eyes,lol.
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Yeah everyone talks bad about you for hating snake eyes..
Please we aint even aloud to speak up without getting our arses handed to us.. 
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10-14-2007, 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Urban Saboteur
They want us to buy this hunk of crap and hutch of pish.. and as long as there are the severe deluded out there high on the wave of the 25th celebrations all to willing to part with their cash.. and take their soldiers home to fix hasbro's problems... why should they change?
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I like the 25th figures, but I hardly think I'm deluded... Are there problems with them? Yes, I've admitted as much many times. But in my own, personal, non-deluded opinion, they still look a lot better than any ARAH or JvC produced in the past.
I think the sculpting is top-notch, and though there are some unfortunate articulation cuts, I don't believe that detracts from how great these figures look-- And I haven't even altered any of mine! ...Except to put a comic pack head on Duke, but that's only because I love that the comic pack head was based on the cartoon character design. I really have nothing against the head it came with.
I'm very pleased to have all my 25th figures standing on the filing cabinet next to my desk. I'm also willing to respect the opinions of those who don't like them, but what bothers me is when such persons (and I don't mean only you, Urban Saboteur, because certain others do it too) state as absolute fact that these are "trash" or "crap" or whatever. I think they're great, but I always make certain to use those words-- "I think" or "in my opinion", rather than just outright saying "they're the greatest figures ever" without leaving room for friendly disagreements.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
EDIT: In the interest of making sure I get the full truth out there, I must admit that I did make one mod to one figure that I forgot about-- I put gloves on Flint.
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10-14-2007, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Self-Modifier
I like the 25th figures, but I hardly think I'm deluded... Are there problems with them? Yes, I've admitted as much many times. But in my own, personal, non-deluded opinion, they still look a lot better than any ARAH or JvC produced in the past.
I think the sculpting is top-notch, and though there are some unfortunate articulation cuts, I don't believe that detracts from how great these figures look-- And I haven't even altered any of mine! ...Except to put a comic pack head on Duke, but that's only because I love that the comic pack head was based on the cartoon character design. I really have nothing against the head it came with.
I'm very pleased to have all my 25th figures standing on the filing cabinet next to my desk. I'm also willing to respect the opinions of those who don't like them, but what bothers me is when such persons (and I don't mean only you, Urban Saboteur, because certain others do it too) state as absolute fact that these are "trash" or "crap" or whatever. I think they're great, but I always make certain to use those words-- "I think" or "in my opinion", rather than just outright saying "they're the greatest figures ever" without leaving room for friendly disagreements.
Anyway, that's my two cents.
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*shakes head* I can't believe this place houses so many plebs... tut tut..
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10-14-2007, 06:22 PM
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im with you self-modifier, i like the 25th. i know there are those who don't, just like most on here don't like the cartoon, only the comics. i dont like snake eyes when most do, i like QK when most don't, heck in most joeverses he's dead. i hated sigma 6, people like graham liked them. i hated a lot of the later stuff hasbro did, a lot of others liked it. like most i think hasbro can and should improve a lot of stuff, will they? i do not know. i cannot say they are doing the same trash they always have because not a single person on here can honestly say they have only done trash. if that were true then why would we be on anything related to joes when all it has been is trash.
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10-14-2007, 07:36 PM
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What's keeping me into GIJoe?
My current collection.
Re-reading the old Marvel comics.
The cool Sigma 6 stuff that's cool but I will never be able to get (mostly due to lack of funds and lack of distribution here). Still doesn't hurt to salivate over it.
The people here and at Joecustoms.
That's about it. Haven't bothered to read DD stuff beyond back issues (Frontline and Special Missions only), new sculpt has been a side hobby at most and I just plain don't like 25A stuff. Can't even take the bastards apart without bashing em with a hammer, how are you supposed to customize effectively with them?
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10-14-2007, 07:54 PM
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Enjoying the season
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It is nice that we have a place to all voice our own opinions without fear of a knock on the door and being taken away never to be heard from again!
I'm not going to drone on and on.
1) First, I whip out the old Marvel series for a read now and again.
2) Second, I have dubbed a heckuva lot of the old cartoon episodes onto a single VHS tape which has been played so many time it is starting wobble... (keeps originals lasting longer...)
3) Shouting "COBRAAAAAAAAA!" when driving in traffic. (I must not be well...)
4) Humming the theme song from time to time...
I always will like the old school figures most of all. But I'm giving the 25th a chance. I read reviews and let others give advice on which are better figures of the bunch. And yes...I'd rather play with a 25th A Beach-Head right now than risk snapping the thumbs or crotch of my beloved 1986 version 1.
My only regret is, I think I started my sons too early. My oldest is 6 and my youngest is almost 4. Thinking back, these came out in 1982, and I was 10 or 11. I could process guns and pretend versus reality. I hope the kids will be able to play well in the future.
Okay, I guess I droned on and on anyway.
I like this site and the forum discussions...but mostly the dio-stories and photos that tell a mini-story. I appreciate the hard work in posing and the photography.
I don't race to gijoe.com when I log in. I come to joedios.com
Let's continue the excellence!
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10-14-2007, 08:42 PM
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I'd rather play with a 25th A Beach-Head right now than risk snapping the thumbs or crotch of my beloved 1986 version 1.
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wow, how true is that. thats another reason i want new figures, most of the old ones i have have broken crotches, which really doesnt bother me much as i got use to it when i was a kid. but i would rather have new stuff to p[lay with then risk breaking my old very hard and costly stuff.
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10-14-2007, 10:44 PM
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It's been a great ride!
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Originally Posted by Self-Modifier
But in my own, personal, non-deluded opinion, they still look a lot better than any ARAH or JvC produced in the past.
I'm also willing to respect the opinions of those who don't like them, but what bothers me is when such persons (and I don't mean only you, Urban Saboteur, because certain others do it too) state as absolute fact that these are "trash" or "crap" or whatever. I think they're great, but I always make certain to use those words-- "I think" or "in my opinion", rather than just outright saying "they're the greatest figures ever" without leaving room for friendly disagreements.
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Gotta disagree on the first point, Self Mod. As for the second point, I absolutely respect anyone's opinion to like or dislike figures from certain eras. People liking different things is what makes the world go round. But, in my humble opinion, the 25th stuff is a steaming heap of poorly articulated, fragile, unadulterated junk. 
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