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An "End The Jerk Ratings" initiative?
Old 06-10-2009, 10:12 PM #1
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Default An "End The Jerk Ratings" initiative?

Hey guys.
I'm certain I'm not the only one tired of seeing people give members' photos poor ratings and not saying why...
When someone posts a great pic like this:
http://www.joedios.com/dioramas/sho...php?i=21644&c=7
That's only got a rating of 3, and all the comments are absolutely positive, it makes no sense.

From what I heard, Hammerfel either doesn't know how to disable the ratings, or simply can't.
Personally, for a while now I've been countering these "poor ratings without an accurate criticism" with ratings of 5 (I don't think anyone here deserves less) but I'm only one member and there seem to be more than one person handing out those ratings.

So I'm asking you guys, my friends, my compadres, my partners-in-crime... will you join me for this, to force the people that give crappy ratings without a reason to either stop, or start posting actual critiques rather than hide behind an anonymous rating?
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Old 06-10-2009, 10:59 PM #2
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Originally Posted by Jay
Hey guys.
I'm certain I'm not the only one tired of seeing people give members' photos poor ratings and not saying why...
When someone posts a great pic like this:
http://www.joedios.com/dioramas/sho...php?i=21644&c=7
That's only got a rating of 3, and all the comments are absolutely positive, it makes no sense.

From what I heard, Hammerfel either doesn't know how to disable the ratings, or simply can't.
Personally, for a while now I've been countering these "poor ratings without an accurate criticism" with ratings of 5 (I don't think anyone here deserves less) but I'm only one member and there seem to be more than one person handing out those ratings.

So I'm asking you guys, my friends, my compadres, my partners-in-crime... will you join me for this, to force the people that give crappy ratings without a reason to either stop, or start posting actual critiques rather than hide behind an anonymous rating?


I don't consider "average" to be a bad rating. I wish that the 1 and 2 star ratings were not labeled "bad" and "terrible" though.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:05 PM #3
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I have always thought that 3 and up was pretty good. What I mean is, we can give alot of praise but still not think that a photo is perfect. Maybe I like the set but the focus is out a bit. I will comment on the greatness of the set but might still give it a 3. I really like most of the pictures that go up but dont think they are all perfect 5's. on the flip side. I have seen very few that deserve 1 or 2's but there have been a few. I usually just choose not to vote at all. Like, Im not a fan of the crossover pics or not joe related pics at all so I just choose not to vote instead of voting 1 because I dont like the subject. Now that would be rude.
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Old 06-10-2009, 11:17 PM #4
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To me it takes A LOT for a pic to be a 1 or a 2, 3's are okay but I think what people forget is the general effort other folks put into their shots. The general consesus ought to be if it's not you're thing just ignore it.

I think at this point most folks just ignore the ratings because it's been abused so. I for one don't pay them much mind. Overall I think it's fairly harmless and would even prefer a few measley yellow blocks as opposed to someone just nit picking the most miniscule of details, and I know I'm not alone there.
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Old 06-11-2009, 12:05 AM #5
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Jay, this issue has been raised before, I don't think there's a lot that can be done. The one star bandit seems to come and go every now and then, and if that's how he gets his jollies, then I feel sorry for him. Personally, I dislike the rating system and never use it. Our work is like all art, it's subjective, I don't see how it can be given a rating as such. You either like it or you don't. If you like it, say so. If not, have the courage to put your name to it and say so as well. Don't just bomb it with a "1" and slink off into cyberspace.
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Whats to be said.. .
Old 06-11-2009, 04:33 AM #6
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Thumbs up Whats to be said.. .

What's to be said or mentioned here that hasn't been said before?

I do think theres a way round it, but asking people to rate *5 to counter those decisions isn't fair, not all bad ratings are down to the one shot phantom.

The best way to deal with it is as the vets have done. Discount the ratings totally. I know I do and so do alot of others here.

I think alot of the contributors here spend time on their sets and photographs.. to primarily to receive feedback on it, to be told if it's good/great or if something could be improved and mainly to share with people who like what they like..
i'd rather receive comments than the yellow ratings. When I first found out about the 'one shot phantom' it pretty much killed my interest in the ratings, how geniune can the ratings be if someone out there is downgrading them every now and then?

As far as Hammerfel doing nothing about it, I think its not simply a case of ticking a button and removing it, i think its a software problem, something that is intergrated into the applications or something and it would cost money to pay a designer or person to fix it. Therefore its easier for us and him if we just ignore the ratings.
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Old 06-11-2009, 05:59 AM #7
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Words of wisdom: ignore it!

Personally I dont pay atenttion to anyones ratings at all...
As I dont take pictures myself (atleast for now) I would think that those who do, would prefer comments rather than "numbers"

Of course there is times when I just look at the pictures here at joedios and dont comment at all... its not that I dont like it or appreciate the hard work and effort put in to the picture... its just that I dont have time, I feel lazy, dont feel like commenting or that the picture is good, but not like superduperuber cool.

Now dont get me wrong, I love almost every picture here, but I usually comment only pictures that are like WOWOMG! Some that are absolutely awesome, but dont "do" it for me, so to speak, are usually left commentless...

I still like them, but being more of a lurker anyway... I'm lazy to comment
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Old 06-11-2009, 06:24 AM #8
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Like any public display, we open ourselves up for criticism here, whether it's text or a 1-star-rating. I don't generally rate photos by stars (Google Chrome won't let me; there's always one feature in a forum that doesn't work...). If something blows me away, I might copy the address into Firefox and rate it a 5, but otherwise I'm limited to text.

For the Street Fighter example, the concept was great, and Dreadnok Dread has proven himself with intricate sets. I'm thinking the effects (blur and transparency) overshadowed the actual figures (I can only recognize Guile's hair and Ken's gi). Since the toys are arguably the focus of JoeDios, the rating might've been lower than expected.

I've skipped uploading plenty of photos knowing they were pretty weak (poor focus, boring composition, etc.). When I do get one up, number of views or star ratings don't mean nearly as much to me as someone offering some constructive criticism for improvement or even pointing out what they like.
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Old 06-11-2009, 07:45 AM #9
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I'd like to see ratings attached to user who rates... well, Outrider is right... this is subjetive.
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Old 06-11-2009, 09:51 AM #10
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I just post my opinion, not rate

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