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Old 10-08-2008, 11:58 AM #1
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So did Al Qaida in the 80's when they were on "our side"


I hate when people say that. There was no such thing as Al Qaida or the Taliban in the 80s.
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Old 10-08-2008, 04:07 PM #2
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I hate when people say that. There was no such thing as Al Qaida or the Taliban in the 80s.


No such thing?
does that mean they didn't exist.. or wernt alive then?
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Old 10-08-2008, 05:07 PM #3
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Let me state what I know about criminals. They don't do it for living, they do it for power. They all want the adrenalin of the action as well as the power to be a bad guy. Nowadays, a bandit, drug dealer has an status and they like it. They are some kind of paralel power and they havetheir own rules to regulate their relations ship. Somali good people is trying to make their life better, the ones in the ship are just stupid bandits trying to get power.

Power isn't the solution, education is. BUT to have a breath moment to begin education you need to use the power. Here in the shanty towns we have the proof of it. Look at Hulk 2 movie. Part of it was run into a real brazilian shanty town, but the one under the eyes of the BOPE (a special police at Rio de Janeiro). With brute force and extensive operations they've the place now under control. Movies, novelas and series can be filmed there w/o fear. In counterpart, there are shanty towns that police still need armored cars to go inside. Once they have cart blanch to do as they did on the first one, the other places will be in line. However the false defensors of human rights have to step aside and let the men do their jobs.

Human rights are for humans. Pirates that are stoping men/women from their work, separating mothers and fathers from their childrens aren't human. Look at a highschool fight. First to stop the two young guys there you need force to get them separate, after that a talk and a lot of conversations can solve it and further prevent a new fight. But always in the first moment you need the brute force.
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Old 10-08-2008, 07:05 PM #4
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No such thing?
does that mean they didn't exist.. or wernt alive then?

Neither group existed as such in the 80s. The Taliban formed in 1995. Al Qaida is a bit murkier, but it really came togther as a group in the late 1990s.
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Old 10-10-2008, 12:27 PM #5
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Neither group existed as such in the 80s. The Taliban formed in 1995. Al Qaida is a bit murkier, but it really came togther as a group in the late 1990s.

The organization name is different, but the players are the same.
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