[QUOTE=Self-Modifier] For the most part I like realism on the Joe side, but there are some futuristic-styled Joe vehicles that are just too cool to ignore, even if they are kind of silly. One that comes to mind is Hot Seat's vehicle. Can't remember what it was called, but it's really neat.

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The Raider. I Liked it too, I just hated the "2 in 1" vehicle thing that plagued GI Joe in the late 80's.

That's another good point, who LIKES the "2 in 1" or "3 in 1" concept vehicles in the late 80's? (Like the Maggot, the Mean Dog, the MAmba, etc) and what vehicles do you NOT classifiy in that group?

For Example, I DON'T put the Whale in there because the 2 vehicles it came with (the bike and sled) were independent of the actual hovercraft, same with the Night Raven and it's launch pod. I also don't lump the B.U.G.G. in there, although it's close......it's little bubble sub kinda irks me, though!!

The other think that I hate is mechanically impossible or unsound stuff...like the Paralyzer (?) I think....it had 4 treads for wheels!?! And the SwampSmasher, which were it's drive wheels? And how did they get power to them? I don't mind futuristic (like the HISS) if it is plausible, but if it's not Mechanically sound, forget it! The S.T.U.N. ......BLAH! Crap!

ANOTHER thing I hate is when they "overcoat" something withfirepower! Perfect Example; The Hammer Humvee! It's cool without the guns on the running boards, but those extra guns make it an eyesore! I took the side guns off mine!

And how about this; when you plop a big gun on top that you would never see on a real Vehicle? (Can you say "battleWagon" and "SandRazor" ) or you put the gun on a simple swivel seat with no protection for the gunners (Rolling Thunder). The rolling thunder is cool without the 4 seated guns around the perimiter!

I like unique designs, like the (Damn, what is that new cobra sub called? The one that came with the Electric eel?) anyway, I like that, even if it is futuristic. It has design lines and engineering that makes it seem plausible.

just my $.02