This isn't ridiculous.. they tried to end a debate by taking a vote.

And I'd like to point your attention to your previous thread about thinking before you type.. if these people done this they wouldnt make so many typo's would they?
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were all acting lil kids fighting over toys and your pointing out typos??? lol, plz . an come on scar, why stop the vote? you were in on the arguing too.

I stopped the 'vote' because it was redundant.............the entire argument was, is and will be contained in this thread..........there's no reason to start another one about it..............


And I'm not 'arguing', I'm 'defending'...............there's a whole world of difference in those two words..........

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arguing starts out as defending something we believe in against something someone else believes to be. but i really dont see why we cant talk about who we like and who we dont like without starting about typos. i make mistakes like crazy, my browser shows me that i didnt put the ' in didn't, but i dont care to fix it. i just come on here to read some great stories and see what some of the other great joe fans have going on in their joe verse. if i like it or dont, i really dont care, i like what they do and what they believe in, and thats G.I. Joe. even for me, a duke hater, i would still rather watch a cartoon or read a comic with duke in it then anything else they put it against that didnt have anything to do with G.I. Joe. i think some people on here may need to do a lil full contact sport, it really takes the edge off and nothing bothers you nearly as much as it would, relieve the stress in a healthy beneficial way, lol.

Jeez you guys. I was wondering how to handle this one.

This is how I'm seeing it.

You either love or hate Duke. That's a personal decision.

Mixing it up with fact of what Hasbro/Sunbow/the big wigs wanted with Duke, that's a different bag. I've already stated Hasbro's stance as well as the Big 3's stance on the concept of Core. This discussion could easily be about Destro, Cobra COmmander and Snake Eyes.

Everyone has their right to hate or love the 1st Sgt of GI Joe. I'm neutral and in fact, I can deal with him. His S6 characterization works for me.

Apparently, Duke is a pretty touchy subject. The way I see it, let Duke be whatever you want him to be in your 'verse. DO NOT trash Hasbro for making him the icon of GI Joe. Stop whining that Hasbro should have killed him off cuz it ain't gonna happen.

Whether you like it or not, Duke is here to stay. HOWEVER, start a Duke Hate club, get big and well-known and maybe Hasbro will create a stupid git like Link Talbot to lead GI Joe instead. Be careful what you wish for.

Urgh. This is why I learned never to get involved in these "debates." They always degenerate into a ridiculous argument about why people hate a character that was, in all honestly, pretty evenly represented back in the old days. Sure, he was a super-main character on the TV show, but he was a bit-player in the comics! It all evens out, so let's just let it be. If you don't like him that's fine, but don't try to change other people's minds. It's not going to happen!

Those of you that hate him-- Fine, you obviously won't alter your opinion, just as those of us who are fans of the guy won't either. Such is the nature of Duke.


And even though I don't want to get involved, I would like to at least voice my feelings on the character. Call me a hypocrite if you like for condemning this argument then adding to it, but I just want to get my opinions out there so everyone knows where I'm coming from.

The following is a cut & paste job that I put in a Target Range: Duke reply thread about a year ago, and it was originally taken from a post I'd made on the JoeCustoms boards several months before that.






And then when someone said this:



I replied thusly:

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Looks sell, that's true, but so does reality television, Trash journalism and ignorant pathetic comedies that lack any true comsdic value, Gansta Rap music and cigarettes, but that DOESN'T mean I should just give up and let this nation slide from mediocrity to total ignorance without saying something and possibly trying to change it.

It's been said a million times in this thread that "Pretty boy" Duke is Hasbro's Golden boy and he won't die, won't change, and Hasbro will never give him up as the poster boys, but that doesn't mean I have to sit here and like it. And I realize that even if I went on a mad killing spree it wouldn't change Hasbro's mind. Hell, when has anything true FANS wanted effected Hasbro? If they listened to their fans, they would have a thriving GI Joe line. (Sorry Joe fans, can't be bothered! Trying to Ride the Spiderman/ Pirates of the Carribean movies popularity until it dries up!!)




I have about 17 Dukes. But that doesn't say much. I also have the Cobra-la figures, Raptor, Crystal Ball, Razor troopers, Ice Cream Soldier and others that I will never use in Dios. It's not that I won't use Duke in a Dio, or that I hate duke, I just don't like Duke being the "Out Front" poster child. You were in the Military. How many times Was your First Sergeant in the Advanced Party? How many times did the First Sergeant stay out in the field the whole time during any Exercise? First Sergeants usually sit in the COC and run s**t from behind the lines. It's an office billet. If anyone should be the poster child it should be Stalker. He's been on more missions and seen more crap than Duke could ever HOPE to!