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01-21-2008, 12:51 PM	#11
Lava Boss Veteran Offline --> Posts: 3,378 --> Join Date: Apr 2006	Hama disliked Duke, but had to use him. Hama said that the CO is the good cop (Hawk) and the top kick is a bad cop (Duke). (Is that right?) So if the comic protrayal of Duke made fans dislike Duke, it was more or less intentional.

01-22-2008, 09:13 AM	#12
silentdusty Crusty Ol MWO Offline --> Posts: 2,994 --> Join Date: Oct 2006	I look at it like this, Hawk is the CO, he looks after his people, he's not afraid to lead them into battle, therefore he has the love and respect of his troops, but he's still the CO. Duke is the top kick, the first sergeant so he has the most "interaction" with the troops, and leads them into battle "on the ground" and they probably respect him for that, though I don't think all of them like him. Flint, Torpedo, Lt. Falcon all out rank Duke, and probably just lead teams for specific missions. In all honestly, rank doesn't seem to mean much in the Joe verse, I've seen Scarlett order Beachhead around, when technically he out ranks her, and that is just one example, so essentially, it's more about what works for a specific writers story whether it be comic or cartoon, not about actual rank. That's just my opinion, I could be wrong. __________________ SILENT DUSTY "...but for a soldier his duty is plain. He is to obey the orders of all those placed over him and whip the enemy wherever he meets him." - General Ulysses S. Grant

01-22-2008, 07:32 PM	#13
Swindle Combaticon Offline --> Posts: 1,488 --> Join Date: May 2006	Just say no to a GIJoe Civil War!

01-23-2008, 03:02 PM	#14
DaveCW2 Happy Camera Fun Time! Offline --> Posts: 1,155 --> Join Date: Nov 2007	Man, and here I thought the debate was always "Duke vs. Flint". I wish I could add something intelligent to this thread, but since Duke's always annoyed me, I'd say everyone gladly follows Hawk over the good Sergeant Hauser Have fun!!! __________________ On a quest to collect and customize the 1985 Joes in Modern Era form. Aaand maybe the Cobras, too. Holy crap! There were five troop builders in 1985 - what am I getting myself into!?!

01-23-2008, 03:09 PM

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Duke's always annoyed me, I'd say everyone gladly follows Hawk over the good Sergeant Hauser

Absolutely

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01-23-2008, 03:49 PM	#16
General Scarlett Hell hath no fury.... Offline --> Posts: 7,646 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	You guys overthink this waaaaaaaaaaaay too much.......... Who gives a good rat's @$$....... __________________ Non illigitamus carborundum~Vos mos non effrego mihi Coming soon: 'JoeSpecialOps'

01-23-2008, 04:35 PM	#17
Swindle Combaticon Offline --> Posts: 1,488 --> Join Date: May 2006	The Joes follow the US Prez anyway.

01-23-2008, 06:42 PM

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You guys overthink this waaaaaaaaaaaay too much..........

Who gives a good rat's @$$.......

Come on GS, we know your vote is for DUKE!

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01-23-2008, 06:59 PM

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Come on GS, we know your vote is for DUKE!

What's this, ladies and gentlemen? Do I smell a... wait... wait... yup... yup, it's official: that was a BUUURN!!!

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