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09-22-2007, 11:04 PM
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The Plague?
Remember when the Steel Brigade/Plague six pack came out? There was supposed to be 13 members of the Plague? What happened? Where are the other 10?
I know! We don't need them! We NEED another version of Snake eyes, Cobra Commander and Storm Shadow! ahhhh...forgive me! I forgot Hasbro doesn't work on logic!
Ok, enough of me being bitter and sarcastic.....Anyone else hoping or looking forward to them rounding out the roster of the Plague?
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09-23-2007, 12:10 AM
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Dawg, don't get me started!
We KNOW that the Plague was to be a match for the original 13. But it's my opinion/theory/belief that the DTC line sucked in terms of sales. IF things had worked in Hasbro's favor, they could've continued the line. But alas, the 25A was almost upon us and sure as frak, they were NOT going to finish the line, no matter what. The hype had to be over the 25A, not an online campaign.
I would've loved the other 10 members of the the Plague. Even if they were repaints of the JvC v2 SE. It's not the worst figure every used and that figure being used for the Plague, why NOT? Better than GhostBear repaints.  I don't see Hasbro even dealing with the Plague. The 2002+ era was all about moving the franchise forward. But apparently, fans just couldn't deal with it. So Hasbro went back to what they believed would work best. Rehashing ARAH models w/ slight updates, new articulation and modern sculpting.
I can't see Hasbro going backwards to finish the Plague which was very much a new concept. IF Hasbro were to continue on the course of DTC and whatever would be aftwards, yes, it would happen eventually. But like the Viper Lockdown pack, we never got a sequel. We never got a rescue team, y'know? So much lost potential. That's Hasbro's failing, not the retailers, imo.
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09-23-2007, 02:54 AM
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I liked the Plague idea and am sorry that it's not likely to see completion by Hasbro.
DDP has picked up on the idea, though, as part of their World War III storyline, and is rounding out the team. I'm sure there'll be many customs to follow suit...
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09-23-2007, 07:52 AM
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personally, didn't like, didn't want, didn't buy them. don't like the idea of getting new, generic imo characters when we could still use some remakes of characters with only 1 version. everyone else seems to love them, which for some is enough reason to buy them even if they do or do not like them. i would rather spend my money on some characters that i like and not some guys who arent even good enough to be full fledged joes yet. just my thoughts.
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09-23-2007, 11:07 AM
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The plague was a cool idea that was messed up by shoddy figures  . I think that it is highly unlikely we will see the concept again, at least from hasbro, that is  .
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09-23-2007, 12:03 PM
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It's been a great ride!
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The completion of the Plague would be awesome, but sadly I don't believe Hasbro will ever go back to giving us anything fresh again. They're happy churning out their lazy, boring overdone repaints of the same tired old characters again and again. The 25th anniversary cr@p is barely months old, yet already populated by second and third versions of some characters. Give me a break! People ony encourage them by buying the rubbish they are currently churning out. Unfortunately, I think if the 25th figures bomb (which they deservre to imho), Hasbro will just drop the entire Joe line. I can't see them bothering to go back to the "old" style stuff again. They've put all their eggs into the one basket. I bought the first two five-packs to give them a chance, but learned my lesson, and won't be buying anymore new stuff as long as it stays in the current style. 
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09-23-2007, 02:11 PM
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Agreed Craig! I did the same thing! I purchased the two 5 packs to give them a chance, but they are too delicate, too flimsy and stiff. The only one I plan on getting from wave 2 is Serpentor. (Just because I love the DD version...the old MArvel mold is too unbelievable!)
Graham, of course the DTC line sales sucked! No advertising on TV....a Comic that is harder than the holy grail to find....no cartoon to back it...not like HAsbro EVER intended for it to succeed! And the same with the 25th toys! I went to 5 stores yesterday (2 targets, 2 Walmarts, and a TRU) and nothing! Well, ok...one 5 pack of cobra figures stuck up in an overhead bin. WTF? I just wish HAsbro would come out and say it.....
"The Iraq war is not popular and we are afraid to sell War toys (Remember when we Changed GI Joe to 'the Adventure Team' because of Viet Nam), because liberal parents (you know, the same ones who won't let their kids play with toy guns and protest every violent action the US has been involved in, but sit home in their yuppy mansion and smoke dope talking about their years at Berkley) might sue us or when the democrats win the election might find a way to put pressure on us, so we're just gonna act like we're incompetent and let the lines sales slip until we can justify dropping it!"
I just wish they would quit acting like they care about their flagship line and admit that since they bought out "Kenner" , Star Wars toys are their new cash cow and they don't give a damn about GI Joe or Fans, just the almighty dollar!
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09-23-2007, 03:07 PM
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Coming back to the Plague matter I would say that I loved the concept and loved Guillotine, but really hated the mold used for the other 2 guys. The head sculpt is fine, but the body is so hard to pose. I considered selling mines, however I'll not do that, maybe someday I can change my mind.
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09-25-2007, 12:05 PM
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They didn't do much for me. I didn't care for the bodies the used. COILS is tall by new sculpt standards, which maybe isn't too bad for a character, but that left hand is useless, plus whats-his-name can't even move his neck. The other two had that bulky Snake-Eyes body with extra articulation that was good on paper, but did little to make up for the short comings of the rest of the body. Plus, it was SNAKE-EYES' body in Snake-Eyes-ish colors.
And for a team of individuals, those two were too much alike, one with red, one with yellow...plus one had a spikey helmet. One wonders if the other plague members weren't just that same look, each with it's own purple, green, orange, pink, or burnt sienna accents.
As for the concept, suddenly after going kill happy and wasting every non-core character left and right, some Devil Due's writer creates new henchmen characters? Why not use existing ones? The Plague reeks of Gen X "here's our take on Cobra" fanfic, making me weary of fans running toy line.
I think there's room for ARAH looks and all-new looks, but for some reason Hasbro has its mind set that there can only be one style of GI JOE, be that construction or appearance, and maybe even scale (we'll see if 8" continues next year or 12" returns or what).
I'm of the mind that the 25th series is disappointing, but servicable. That may change. I only have 3 figures so far. If they could SIT DOWN, that would really raise my opinion of them. Updated figures should be able to do what a figure from 1982 could do.
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09-25-2007, 03:14 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ToneGunsRevisited
Coming back to the Plague matter I would say that I loved the concept and loved Guillotine, but really hated the mold used for the other 2 guys. The head sculpt is fine, but the body is so hard to pose. I considered selling mines, however I'll not do that, maybe someday I can change my mind.
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I completely agree, I loved the idea/look of Guillotine, but the rest were very poorly done.
Great concept with little thought and effort put into it.
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