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10-05-2008, 09:35 AM
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Somali Pirates about to get theirs?
Ok, to me this is ridiculous. It's the 21st century and we have 3rd world scumbags in skiffs capturing yachts, frigates and cargo freighters and holding them for Ransom! WTF? Here is where we should focus the War on Terrorism! And from the sound of it, looks like these bad boys are about to have the whole world come down on them. And it's about time!!
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081005...battling_piracy I've been trying to find the Story I read a few days ago when a man from a British Think-tank group said that the best plan of action is to pay the pirates. That's like saying the best plan of action for a serial killer is to let him kill! I thought we don't negotiate with terrorists? That's why a lot of countries have such issues with Terrorists. Pay them off or submit to them and you're encouraging that behavior and showing them that crimes DOES INDEED pay! Do they really think these guys are gonna quit? They need some SEALS and Marines to take that Ship, then Patrol the Somali coast and sink anything that leaves shore for about 2-3 years! They should kill those Pirates, stuff their bodies and hang them from ships that pass through those waters until they get the idea that AK-47's are no match for Aircraft Carriers and NAVY SEALs! . |
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10-05-2008, 09:43 AM
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I read the article at a local paper here.
The problem with the river pirates there is that they are in the infra-structure, you are not only fighting the pirates, but the pirates families, the entire country by default. Much like Iraq/Afghanistan. Things are not as simple as they seem. - They could always go in there gun blazing, but it wouldn't make much difference in the big picture, its like putting a band-aid on a decapitation. ------ edited: As an afterthought, the captain of the captured vessel is dead, of heart failure - the Pirates refused to let him go. So things in this particular instance might change quite rapidly.
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10-05-2008, 09:50 AM
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You are simplifying a very complex problem. You can't be on the water 24/7 - and even if you manage to somehow do that, they will turn their attention elsewhere, inland. It won't fix the problem, only move it.
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10-05-2008, 10:42 AM
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I see your point, but I am talking about securing the shipping lines not fixing Somalias problems. The underlying problems will allways be there. |
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10-05-2008, 12:31 PM
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The Canadian Navy has been doing escort duty for ships taking relief supplies into Somalia. They've also made a number of smuggling and drug trafficking busts in the Middle East and the Caribbean. But it's just a drop in the bucket. These countries need to police themselves but they don't care if tons of cocaine are being shipped out of their country to North America. Doesn't affect them.
Using tax dollars to pay off pirates is absurd. I've noticed a disturbing trait of siding with the bad guys that's becoming more and more prevalent in the world today. |
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Again its a pretty big picture to consider, it may sound easy but its a pretty big sea there even within the normal Shipping Lanes. My dad was a sailor for over 40 years and told me about that particular Sea. We can only hope that they get around to do something to better the situation, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
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10-05-2008, 10:26 AM
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I have a feeling if they send in the SEALS and the GSG9 and whoever else they can get, those Somalis are going to have a very heavy lunch fed to them with some of the most kickass clandestine MOFOs in the world. I wish I could be a fly on the wall to see all the goodness go down!! This behavior can no longer be tolerated. Even the higher ups in Somalia have given the green light to deal with the pirates in lethal manners. Send 1 sub out there to patrol the waters. Thier fish will hit thier mark and the pirates will never know they're in for a helluva party!!
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I'm with you Frank. Don't reward the evil b@stards, give them a taste of their own medicine, the only thing they understand. They choose to act in that way, let them pay the price.
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Well, if you sink everything bigger than a life preserver I think that will solve the issue. The issues with Somalia are the same issues with most of the Middle East. People from different tribes and clans too busy killing each other to stick together and make something out of their country. We can help them, but THEY have to be willing to do the work themselves, and it's too important to them to kill each other and sit around all day jacked up on Khat then try to build business and infrastructure. Heck, if they try, a rival clan comes in an attacks it and steals what they can. Yeah, you can't solve their issues, but THAT is NOT OUR Problem...it's THEIRS! And I for one am tired of giving welfare to 3rd world nations who's leaders pocket the cash and let the people suffer. We tried to help them, remember? Watch "Black Hawk Down". We sent in food and aid and the warlords kept it all for $$$. Let them sort out their country! OUR Problem is that international waters off their coast are becoming their source of income at OUR expense. And the best way to stop Piracy is with firepower! Do you think we should tell a guy who is stealing to feed his kids it's ok, when he is perfectly able to get a job? Quote:
True, People Can't be on the sea 24/7, but sea mines and sensors and satellites can. And what can they turn their attention inland to? No one drives through Somalia. Hell, since the government collapsed they stripped the telephone and electric lines to sell the copper. They have nothing to make money on while in their country, that's why they are stealing stuff on the high seas. And the only way to protect other countries assets on the high seas is to hunt down these Pirates and Kill them. If we do nothing, we just appease them, what do thy do? They keep stealing and murdering. If we surround them and force them to sit in their country and not have a life, they will either make a country out of Somalia or die. That may sound harsh, but I doubt these guys are rays of sunshine coming over the decks of your boat with AK's in hand! Kill 'em all, says I! Last edited by ender098 : 10-06-2008 at 04:25 AM. |
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