Greetings all!

Now that we have access to the ROC line now, and we've been buying them, have some days with hands-on experience, I find myself having mixed feelings about them.

It looks to me Hasbro is going all out with the ROC figures. They seem to be loaded with equipment, some so much equipment that there's no place to put them on the figure. The Neo-Viper Commandos have a grappling hook with rope winch, some neat stuff. Yet, it's like something is lacking. I don't consider the big spring gun things, so that's not part of my equation.

Compared to the Resolute line, it seems the design for the Resolutes are better. Concerning ROC, it seems there's potential, yet incomplete. For instance there's a lack of holdsters. Scarlett's face is a highlight of disappointment for me. Heavy Duty doesn't seem to be military fit, just big.

So anyway, I would like to open this thread for your thoughts and opinions about the ROC figures. I have mixed feelings about them, do you?

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I finally got some today. I had a choice of all of them, and bought only 3, Shipwreck, Reactive armor HD, and Sgt. Stone. I almost got Storm Shadow, but the skirt would have prevented any leg motion. Maybe next time. The others were meh, blah, and fugly. Scarlett and Cover Girl's head sculpts were very disappointing. CG especially. Scarlett's was also bad. Snake Eyes was very bad IMO. I really wanted the Baroness to be likable, but the anorexic body and very very very skinny legs and the big ol' head ruined it for me. I may get Destro later. The "regular" Heavy Duty looked ok, and I would have gotten one if I had found one with good paint apps on the eyes. The ones I saw all had eyes that looked straight up, like he was having a seizure or something. Desert Duke also looked ok, but very plain. I have better BBi figs if I want that kind of look. The rest were just kinda plain. Breaker and Zartan were practically the same except for the heads. The neo vipers were not appealing to me at all. Finally a Shipwreck I like, no blue jeans and work shirt, he likes like a real military type.

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I certainly agree about Shipwreck. Although to me he's more groggy and very "old sea dog" looking that he's more like a captain instead of some sailor. He's very rough and weathered, not years but decades of experience. I can practically see him manning the helm during a storm in the North Sea or something.

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What is the difference between the reactive armor that most of the figures come with and the Delta six accelerator suit My Ripcord has? It looks the same except the reactive Armor doesn't have a helmet! On closer look, the Delta-six suit had "Mech" legs. Hmmmm. And in the Movie, weren't the A-Suits silver? I Like the color apps on most of the figures, except some of the "Tag-alongs" like BBQ. (Is he even in the Movie?)

I must agree about the equipment. Did hasbro learn nothing in the 90's about spring loaded crap? The only one that kinda looks cool, it the Baroness's RPG with Nano rocket. And what are some of these things for? Sgt Stone has some sort of Radio thing that plugs into his back or something! Scarlett has some rope with a hook on each end and a harness. How does that work? Even in the 90's, hasbro had the common sense to print instructions on the backing cards.

I like the figures in the reactive Armor and the Accelerator suits, but I'm not impressed with the other figures. Snake eyes and Storm Shadow Look too much like they stepped out of "Reloaded"! And the Vipers/Neo Vipers looks ridiculous. How can you fight in a steel plated life jacket? Maybe it's me.... And their helmets....look more like Range Vipers. WTF?? Cobra Commander? Blech! I wanna see the destro without the helmet. I MAY purchase him.

I like the new Baroness figure, but why didn't she come with the machine pistol from the preview? She's got two crappy little ray guns! They look like $h1t. Nothing an Order from Marauder can't fix.

Basically, I'm gonna get a lot of the movie figures, but they are NOT gonna be the Joes! I'll make them some new team!

I bought just a select few, because as you know at heart I'm an o-ring devotee. They are certainly an improvement over the regular 25th style of figure; they are a lot sturdier and are more realistically proportioned, and they have their chest joints better hidden, but not well enough to convert me totally just yet. I passed on most of them and just picked up a few of the nicer camo schemed ones. The accessories are mostly pretty good, except for the dumb over sized missile launchers.

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I think the machine pistols are only with the longcoat version of Baroness who'll be coming in a subsequent wave.

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I'd really like to know what the holes in some of their legs (Desert Duke, for example) are for. No gun he comes with plugs in there. The weapons seem better suited for Star Wars, are somewhat out of proportion, and the plastic seems to be cheap and rubbery. The Cobra soldiers seem kind of scary in those masks. As for those big, goofy spring-loaded things the only one I can see being used would be Breaker's as some sort of automated AA cannon. So far I would say Hasbro has yet to wow me. There are still a few I want that I haven't found yet, though.

I have yet to see them (haven't found any over the weekend not shopped this week yet). I really like some of the designs and feel they are must haves while some are just too short of the goal. Acc suit Scarlett and CG I am going to wait to see in person. I plan to buy both storm shadows, maybe both SE's as well (In person I will make that desision).

For the most part though I hate the blandness, I realize the movie went the x-men route and have no problem with that, but at the same time I avoided X-men movie toys for that same reason.

Still I could see it being much much worse.

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i found only 1 of each vehicles at magic mart, no figures. i do want some, but i have to agree that all the projectile weapons are stupid. and everything is green. i think wal-mart was supposed to get them in on the 6th, so im hoping. zedhatch, if you know where the magic mart im talking about in hazard is, go there. i left a few vehicles. but stay away from my wal-mart until im done. i get first dibs.