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The Comic Box #21!!!

05-23-2007, 07:01 PM	#1
General Scarlett Hell hath no fury.... Offline --> Posts: 7,646 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	The Comic Box #21!!! Welcome to The Comic Box. This is a discussion thread for the GI Joe comics. We start at Marvel’s #1 and move thru the series every Wednesday. It’s a chance to give your thoughts, opinions and remarks about the comic in question. #21. Silent Interlude ~Short Summary~ Snake-Eyes rescues Scarlett from Destro's Cobra stronghold. ~Notes of Interest~ Arguably the greatest Joe story ever told. Written and drawn by Larry Hama, but without a word in it. Various comic book writers have said that they received inspiration from this issue. The first appearance of Storm Shadow. It also hints at a link between Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes: they both have the same tattoo. -summary from yojoe.com- http://www.yojoe.com/comics/joe/joe21.shtml -photo from yojoe.com- Discuss away! __________________ Non illigitamus carborundum~Vos mos non effrego mihi Coming soon: 'JoeSpecialOps'

05-23-2007, 11:41 PM	#2
maxtype Veteran Offline --> Posts: 392 --> Join Date: Mar 2007	Arguably the greatest COMIC STORY EVER!!! This silent story manages to be completely clear and engrossing with No Words save for the title and a Cobra computer display or two.............. Scarlett quickly proves once again that she's no 'damsel in distress'.........and Snake-Eyes showed what a COMMANDO can do!!!My favorite part is when the Red Ninja gets all 'Darth Maul' with the twin Sai-so Snake-Eyes simply gets 'Indy' with a M66 Fragmentation Grenade..............That HADDA Hurt!!! Besides his excellent script-Larry Hama also did the pencil breakdowns for this issue,something he unfortunetly didn't have time for often enough...........along with Steve Leialoha's finishes.........the art is always exciting,detailed,and never unclear!!! Can you tell I love this issue?? 11 out-of 10 Stars!!!

05-24-2007, 06:10 AM	#3
lehsreh G.I. Smurf Offline --> Posts: 3,446 --> Join Date: Jan 2006	i remember these issues. when i first got it i thought it was awesome. a whole story without a word anywhere. but now i wish they had made a story to it. being a want to be comic artist i know its true the art can carry a story, in rare occasions. but for grown ups and die hard readers we need a good story with depth. i would buy a book by jim lee even if the story sucked, but the comics that i still go through are the ones with great stories.

05-24-2007, 09:38 AM	#4
Flint Lady 'J's #1 Man!! Offline --> Posts: 7,849 --> Join Date: Dec 2006	This was a cool Issue, different because it had no words, but if my memory serves me, I remember hearing that there was a script written by Hama, but it didn't get to Marvel in time and they sent the book to print without the script!!!

05-24-2007, 11:54 AM	#5
yorktownjoe Enjoying the season Offline --> Posts: 5,106 --> Join Date: Nov 2005	I agree. This is the best issue ever. I'm hard pressed to think of another issue that was quite so cool and unique.

05-24-2007, 01:14 PM	#6
Outrider It's been a great ride! Offline --> Posts: 14,302 --> Join Date: Jun 2005	Maxtype pretty well said it all. Larry Hama's genius for storytelling is on full display in this superb issue. I didn't have this issue for a long time, but I had heard great things about it. When I finally did obtain it, I instantly saw that all the hype was justified. This issue, probably more than any other, was the beginnings of Snake Eyes becoming the single most popular Joe ever. Still one of the highlight issues of the Marvel run. __________________ "The future's uncertain and the end is always near." - The Doors "Roadhouse Blues".

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Originally Posted by Flint

This was a cool Issue, different because it had no words, but if my memory serves me, I remember hearing that there was a script written by Hama, but it didn't get to Marvel in time and they sent the book to print without the script!!!

I heard that too, though I've never seen it confirmed by anyone.

As for my feelings on the issue-- I just read it for the first time about three years ago when Marvel put out the trade collections of their first 50 issues. Like Outrider said, the hype was definitely justified. Hama's art is fantastic, and it's really a shame he didn't draw many more issues.

I have a trade paperback of "Nick Fury, Agent of SHIELD," with an introduction by Larry Hama. In the intro, Hama explains that this issue was an homage to the first few pages of Nick Fury #1. Those pages are entirely silent and feature Nick infiltrating an enemy castle or tower or something. You can definitely see where the influence came from!

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05-26-2007, 09:21 PM	#8
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	I never thought much about this issue. I mean, it was cool that SE put Cobra in their place and all and the lack of text as just fine with me. HOW it got the recognition and love and... Hell, it's overrated in my eyes. It's a comic. Not the best, not the worst of the series but groundbreaking???

05-26-2007, 09:22 PM	#9
Sonneilon aka 'Paul WS Anderson' ;) Offline --> Posts: 7,751 --> Join Date: Jul 2005	For the record... It was more than just Marvel not printing the text and whatnot. Comic books are under time crunches and Marvel (and DC) are far stricter on timeliness than, ahem, Image in the 90s. So... there wasn't TIME to do the text! They threw down what they had and BAM, it became a classic amongst the old folks.

05-27-2007, 08:24 PM	#10
Lava Boss Veteran Offline --> Posts: 3,378 --> Join Date: Apr 2006	My family moved inbetween issue 19 and somehow I missed a few issues...this was one. (why didn't we just subscribed?!) So I didn't "read" it until years later, after the hype...yes, there was hype even then...letter's pages, etc. Why did Cobra kidnap Scarlett? Didn't really serve much purpose other than to have Snake-Eyes go to the castle. Plot wise, the addition to the greater saga is is the intro to Storm Shadow and the reveal that they are somehow connected via a tatoo. By Hama's standards that not much....so this issue is pretty light overall, even if it introduces a key character. Oh, and that damn castle that would be ignored for 100 issues, only to be overused in the last 30 or so. Issue #21 was a neat idea...thankfully though, Hama used the silent issue concept sparingly. What is groundbreaking once can become tired if overdone. Score: 6/10 (Ii just can't reconcile my dislike of the endless Storm Shadow-Snake Eyes storyline.)