From what I'm gathering elsewhere, the waist doesn't actually have articulation. People cite that it is 'more realistic to swivel just beneath the torso'. Shoot, I'll just cut n paste what Jmacq wrote on the JBL.

You may want to double check there, buddy, cause it sure ain't your waist that's moving much. Unless you're some kind of freak of nature. (No offense if you in fact are quadruple jointed or somesuch)

Of course the only way to truly replicate "natural" torso swivel would be Luke's ingenious "gumby Joe" idea, but seriously, the pivot point for your torso is closer to mid-torso than at the waist.

You can make your shoulders face about 90 degrees to either side, but you normally can't make your bellybutton do it.




So here's what I was worried about. I guessed earlier on that Hasbro would most likely be taking the old designs and giving them a modern-day sculpting. Such seems to be the case so far. What I questioned was (and Dave and TG and Shane and well, the MSN guys already know), how do we know that the designs aren't outdated? Scar is still wearing her bathing suit w/ tights underneath, y'know?

If we wanted an updated version (like the 2002+), then Hasbro would have to create a new 'theme' or whatever. They've tried 2 versions of Scar since 2002 and now they are doing a Greatest Hits for the 25th. I don't know what you guys really expect or expected.