This pretty much touches on what I just said in my other post PA. I happen to think Nate is trying to do the right thing as well. He's got a stonker (great) site and its full of potential, always has been.

I didnt want to bring Outrider into it. But he told me himself that the place became all about personality politics and i know i had lengthy chats with Outrider via FM before he passed away about his time spent there.

Me and Outrider had more in common that just the gijoes. We'd talk about alot of things. If you go back far enough i actually didnt get off on the best foot with Craig at all. But I realised what a great inspiration he was.

Sadly there are veteran members here, for whatever reason that escapes me have some kind of personal agenda, and for a while now they've utilised their veteran status and abused it in a cruel way. If you need to speak to me personally, i am in the UK but up late and i'm on MSN messaging you right now.

I do hope that Joe Dios gets past this turmoil and I meant every word I said in my previous post on the 'bannings' thread.

I am one of the many veterans of this site that happens to be in agreement with PA about this whole issue.

Regards
NEF

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