Funny i was reading somethng on another board about bad guys in general which pointed out that if the good guys are just dullards then someone is doing the good guys wrong. Pulling that into an example: Iron man when stark points out with all his character defects he couldn't be a superhero.

In relation to Vader, one thing that made him compelling to me was the fact that at the end of empire he told luke he was his father. I hated him cause I thought he was lying, and yet by the end of jedi he was dying and I felt ultmate sympathy for him, just an old man in a suit not the monster we envisioned. But he was the first (and argueably only) character to make me feel that kind of range of emotion.

In relation to GI Joe, basicly the snakes are much more colorfull characters, that is no ones fault besides the way they are designed. Destro with a metal mask is ten times as fun as someone with a berret for instance.

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