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Originally Posted by haradrel
The problem with the river pirates there is that they are in the infra-structure, you are not only fighting the pirates, but the pirates families, the entire country by default.
Much like Iraq/Afghanistan.
Things are not as simple as they seem. - They could always go in there gun blazing, but it wouldn't make much difference in the big picture, its like putting a band-aid on a decapitation.
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As an afterthought, the captain of the captured vessel is dead, of heart failure - the Pirates refused to let him go. So things in this particular instance might change quite rapidly.
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Well, if you sink everything bigger than a life preserver I think that will solve the issue. The issues with Somalia are the same issues with most of the Middle East. People from different tribes and clans too busy killing each other to stick together and make something out of their country. We can help them, but THEY have to be willing to do the work themselves, and it's too important to them to kill each other and sit around all day jacked up on Khat then try to build business and infrastructure. Heck, if they try, a rival clan comes in an attacks it and steals what they can. Yeah, you can't solve their issues, but THAT is NOT OUR Problem...it's THEIRS! And I for one am tired of giving welfare to 3rd world nations who's leaders pocket the cash and let the people suffer. We tried to help them, remember? Watch "Black Hawk Down". We sent in food and aid and the warlords kept it all for $$$. Let them sort out their country!
OUR Problem is that international waters off their coast are becoming their source of income at OUR expense. And the best way to stop Piracy is with firepower! Do you think we should tell a guy who is stealing to feed his kids it's ok, when he is perfectly able to get a job?
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Originally Posted by haradrel
You are simplifying a very complex problem.
You can't be on the water 24/7 - and even if you manage to somehow do that, they will turn their attention elsewhere, inland.
It won't fix the problem, only move it.
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True, People Can't be on the sea 24/7, but sea mines and sensors and satellites can. And what can they turn their attention inland to? No one drives through Somalia. Hell, since the government collapsed they stripped the telephone and electric lines to sell the copper. They have nothing to make money on while in their country, that's why they are stealing stuff on the high seas. And the only way to protect other countries assets on the high seas is to hunt down these Pirates and Kill them. If we do nothing, we just appease them, what do thy do? They keep stealing and murdering. If we surround them and force them to sit in their country and not have a life, they will either make a country out of Somalia or die. That may sound harsh, but I doubt these guys are rays of sunshine coming over the decks of your boat with AK's in hand! Kill 'em all, says I!
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