I think I've made my opinions on 25th clear. I have nothing against O-ring figures. I like them, I have many that I don't ever plan to get rid of. But they look so... primitive and deformed next to their more proportionally correct 25th descendants! I like the 25th because of the superior sculpting, as has been mentioned before. I also dislike the chest swivel (though I do think it's getting better) and the dreaded Duke arms. But those are about the only things I dislike.

As far as the fact that they're basically rehashes of all the old figures... That's actually what I wanted the Joe revival in 2002 to be! I never owned v1s of a lot of the main Joes from the comics and cartoons, and getting them in an updated format is fantastic. In the year or so since 25th started, I think I've bought more of these figures than in the 4 or 5 years I was collecting JvC and its sequel lines!

Finally, I will say this-- If I still played with my Joes, I'm sure I would find the 25th figures too fragile. But I just display them on a shelf, and use them for dios, and that's about it. I tried displaying my RAH and JvC Joes, but they looked very primitive and silly next to all my nicely sculpted and highly articulated Marvel Legends and similar lines. However, I proudly display the 25th Joes because they're geared far more for that purpose.

I think that about covers my thoughts...

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