What about the guys like me who are always into new things and see the room for improvement? LIke, I could care LESS about the o-ring in concept BUT the fact that Hasbro didn't give us a SW-like swivel waist peg wasn't thought out well. To make the swivel and jointed ankles work, you gotta have a swivel thigh (think JvC Firefly).

The lack of head articulation in terms of looking up and down isn't as big a deal to me as the LACK OF ARTIULATION in the ARMS that most of these figures suffer from. AND the lack of Swivel Wrists, which we KNOW Hasbro can do, the lack of it sucks! The fact that the chest and stomach don't usually match up is a bummer too. Duke's shirt is off. I'da prefered, I guess, the o-ring cuz it'd fix that tiny problem of the torso lining up.

But the sculpting, for the most part, is top notch. They've given us a pretty large array of characters to choose from. Repaints work for me (like DTC LowLight, the Steel Brigade, Colton, etc) but the OVERUSE of characters for the repaints (or vice versa is a bit of a low point. How many ninja we got now??? Red, black, white and an upcoming aqua ninja??? I also like the amount of soft goods that have been added to the figures. Firefly for example. Instead of a molded on ammo belt, it's removable. Just like Beach Head and his vest. Very nice touch and it helps the costs with the figures (just add soft goods).

I'm FINE with the 25A. THey aren't the end all. But there's a lot of room for improvement.

And from what I've seen, most of the JBL seems to LOVE the 25A. A bit more than myself, tho that might not be saying much. I'm not sure WHY those guys love the 25A more than the bastard era. Maybe Frank can explain that one. All I can figure is that those guys are more traditionalist than Outrider in that we are getting UPDATED figures in (almost) ORIGINAL outfits. *shrug*