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The swivel wrists are great, but plenty of new sculpt o-ring figures had that as well, it's not unique to the 25th style of figures.
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Its not unique but its standard.
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The main reasons I dislike the 25th stuff are their fragility
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I really have no idea what you are on about here - They are more sturdy then the ARAH figures - no broken Crotches, no broken Thumbs - and so far very few limp joints
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their limited poseability
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They are more posable then the original figures ever was - if you can't pose these guys you are doing it wrong, plain and simple.
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their mostly skinny and poorly proportioned bodies
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They are better proportioned then the original run - actually they are pretty near perfect scale - some varying head sizes is all, but even the original run had more of it then the 25th.
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and their larger scale.
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I am guessing you are no fan of the 12" as well then?
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Plus I hate how Hasbro arrogantly expects that someone who already has all these characters as ARAH figures will buy them all again just because they have been "re-imagined".
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This I completely agree with you on - they should do both lines to appease the "veterans" as well as newcomers/collectors.
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As a few others have said, the o-ring IS GI Joe.
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You are totally forgetting about the 12" line. O-ring is not GI Joe, it might have been the GI joe you grew up with, but its not the be all end all of GI Joe.
Just FYI I'm not trying to come off as "mean" - I just wanted to respond the way a 25th collector sees things. You had good examples on why most dislike the line so I picked your post to answer to - no hard feelings man
- we have different points of view - And in this hobby of ours that's bound to happen when they alter the product to such a degree, I respect your view as you have been collecting these for a good long while - but please respect the new collectors that re-live their childhood now with figures that they deem better then what they remember (well some of us do), and not bash the 25th line every chance you get, its getting kind of old. - I thought we had a "bash the 25th line" post somewhere, but every place I turn these days on joedios I constantly find grumblings about the line, even on comments on pictures! or reviews!
My way of doing things is simple - if you don't have anything constructive to write (constructive criticism) or positive, then don't write at all, it just sets a bad mood, and no-one benefits from it.
I will say it again as I have said this before - the 25th line got me back into collecting the joes from my childhood. If they had just re-launched the original figures I probably would have just stopped with Snake Eyes and Storm Shadow and left it there.
The 25th are in my point of view a step forward - not close to perfect - but neither was the original run of figures. They are however God-send to us photographers with their posability and true to scale 1:18 (which means we can steal a whole lot of other accessories from other places and use with them for the dios).