I actually hate zartan with a passion. I always have. I'm really not sure the roots of my hate, but it stems out to touch all the dreds. I don't know why. I hope I don;t get stoned for this as pretty much everyone here loves zartan, but I really hate him. And the cartoon ruined c.c. for me too. He was so whiny that it carried over into my toys and I would just throw him in the closet, i just couldn't picture him as great. destro is ok i guess. but the way his metal mouth moved in the cartoon was just so fake that it turned me off from him for a long time. I'm starting to like him again, but then i get that image in my head of his metal head animated like leather and it seems silly. so i guess Hawk, i got now rants for him. hehe
