I gotta admit, Jay has a point. It isn't about quashing anyones creative talent. I personally LOVE Rich's Siganture. It is awesome! But could it be a little smaller? Yeah. Mine was Huge and nasty (remember the TROLL BUSTERS Logo I had?!? Tell Me noone found that loud beast annoying!!)The main reason I took it off is because a lot of people focused on the graphic and not what I was saying. This whole website is about being creative....nothing wrong with that...but in the "Forums" section...... It's more about creating "too much" clutter when someone tried to read the threads. I know on some sites I have gone totally past an important post in the thread because the poster has a HUGE bunch of graphics and meaningless crap in his signature. (just like I had at one time) It hasn't scome to that around here, but I think Jay may see it going that direction and has expressed his concern...

And by rights, you have expressed yours. "There is no limit, so what's the fuss?"

Can't we find a happy medium? Rich, I think your signature is fine, I think Jay was commenting on all the members who copied you, and unlike you, posted tons of links, and meaningless quotes in their signature on top of a large graphic.