25th Anniversary Stuff
 

This was posted yesterday on the official GI Joe site:

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/default...52C2E891A19E111

Do any of you guys know more about this stuff?
I'm really curious? Any rumors out there?

25 figures?!? Okay, I'm actually excited now...

They say most detailed as well as most articulated, so hopefully they won't look TOO different from existing 3.75" figures and won't have joints throwing their proportions off... I'm imagining something along the line of Marvel Legends Showdown...

Maybe they'll show the same artiulation as Marvel Showdown. That would really ROCK!!!

I'm not sure how I feel. I really hoped for a more modern RAH sculpt style. Like the Comic Packs. Some of the head sculpts were fantastic and left me wishing we revamp the torso's and arms etc. too. I don't really want to see crazy levels of articulation. As for the Marvel thing, I look at those figures and I just can't take to them...

Let's hope Hasbro hasn't gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooofed! :eek:

Knowing Hasbro, I'm not getting my hopes up. :rolleyes:

25th Aniversary line
 

As long as the figures come with helmets and include th original 13 agents with the right color schemes, I'll be getting all of them. If its like Sigma 6 , I won't. This is great news for 3.75 collectors. I can't wait to see them. Thanks for giving us the heads up!!1

I just now some yokel'll spoil the line-up before Hasbro unveils any of them.

I'm not exicted, intrigued maybe. It's hard to work up enthusiasm, because even if a picture of one of these looks excellent, it's all about the final product, something Hasbro mucks up IMHO with spotty quality control.

Unless they have remakes of Flash and Grand Slam in their original uniformes and new heads and comic color schemes, I'll buy 'em. :D

For now, I have no interest. :rolleyes:

It's believed that H is taking the most popular chars from 82-86 to redux. Check out the JBL for people's ideas. Let me rephrase that. We KNOW they are taking chars from 82-86. However, the JBL figures H is taking the popular chars. I expect to see the usual core; SE, Scar, Duke, CC, Destro, & Baroness.

Just to note, don't expect to see Star Wars parts get mixed into GI Joe. It's believed (again, that word) that GL keeps the SW parts for SW-only toys. Even though it's a Hasbro product, Hasbro can't use any of the parts. Stay tuned to the Joe and toy sites because ToyFair is next month. We should be able to get first looks (well, ok, 2nd looks) of what's to come in the summer. SUMMER! That's sooner than I would have thought!

EXACTLY!!!


And if the stuff is 3.75" Sigma Six, I'm gonna end up eating crow and buying it. And Graham will NEVER let me live it down! LOL!

Seriously though, after the comic packs, and going back and hunting down the Stars and Stripes set, I don't want anymore of the orginal 13 Joes. I'd like to see more of the 1986 series! Mabe a decent version of Shockwave and Hit and Run. Or even better (although I'm probably gonna get flamed for this.....) NEW DD Sculpts. Wraith, Mayday, Firewall, General Rey, Serpentor, Overlord, Mistress Armada, Alexander McCullen, Dr. Knox, and of course, the Red Shadows! Even, dare I say it, a new MAINFRAME sculpt?

Or how about some Characters that didn't make it to figures from the original series? Like Hard Master and Soft Master, Billy, Candy, Capt Mihn, Dr. Venom, ScarFace (ok, he it be argued he was in the cobra infantry six pack!) and Recondo's Indian Friend.

Just my $.02

Dude, it won't be Sigma6. That wouldn't make sense. S6 it it's own entity. The 25th will cater to the OLD collectors.

Articulation?
 

What is the deal with the articulation? does anybody have any ideas? Is it just wrists? I think Barrage's head looks stupid. I hope they don't do that with all the new figures' heads.

I wouldn't be surprised if they went with the ball neck.

There are a handful of people that are in the know and they will NOT let anything out. Master Collector's one of them, y'know? Patience, young padawan. Well ok, it's easier for ME to wait cuz I have the S6 coming out every month. hee hee.

Just had a thought - with new articulation, are they going to be at all compatible with old figures when it comes to customising...? With they still have the screw-torsos...?

It wouldnt shock me if these guys were 3.75" Sigma-6 figures. Isn't the Hasbro news on the Sigma-6 section of their website? Why would they post it there if it wasn't Sigma-6 related? The line about the new articulation makes me think these wont be RAH style figures, and they wont be the new sculpts we have seen the last few years, and if they are doing a whole new base sculpt for these new 3.75" figures, with the Sigma-6 cartoons and merchandise already on the shelf, I'd almost be these would be S6 guys.

--== Paragon ==--

Yet, how is S6 a nod to the old ARAH line? They won't be S6. Hasbro is looking to make these collectables for the old fans.

I'm always optimistic about these things. Despite Hasbro's track record, I try to look for the positives. Of course, my opinions aren't as strong as others', so I'm not usually as disappointed. New articulation? Sounds good to me. As long as it's not a T-crotch, why not? I think ball joints in the Marvel Legends style would be really nice, and be a great improvement on the O-ring.

I also think a selection limited exclusively to new versions of 82-86 would be a great idea, and considering this is an anniversary line, it makes the most sense. If I could choose 25 Joe characters to be re-done in this line, they would be:

1. Duke (based on v1)
2. Flint (based on v1, cartoon colors)
3. Hawk (based on v2)
4. Snake-Eyes (based on v2)
5. Scarlett (based on v1)
6. Lady Jaye (based on v1, cartoon look)
7. Gung-Ho (based on v1)
8. Roadblock (based on v1 or v2)
9. Beachhead (based on v1)
10. Shipwreck (based on v1)
11. Wild Bill (based on v1)
12. Breaker
13. Stalker (based on v1)
14. Doc
15. Ace (based on cartoon look)
16. Mutt (based on v1)
17. Spirit (based on v1)
18. Cobra Commander (based on v1, interchangeable heads)
19. Baroness (based on v1)
20. Destro (based on v1)
21. Major Bludd (based on v1)
22. Zartan (based on v1)
23. Storm Shadow (based on v1)
24. Cobra Officer
25. Cobra Trooper

As you can tell, I'm barely a fan of anything post-1984, and even less so after 1985. But anyway, I think a group like this would be a very fitting anniversary set, and if done well, Hasbro would definitely get my money for all of them.

25th anniversary figures
 

Those are some good ideas!! My loyalty to the 3.75 line ends in 1989 with the making of the Night Viper # the obligatory Big Ben, Red Star and Big Bear figures. I also really liked the 2000-2006 line of stuff,incuding the DTC line. Somethings are better than nothing and after 1994 I'll take anything Hasbro can throw down. Its cool having Gi Joe back!! A geat comic;with great figures!!

Muwhahaha! A Captain Minh figure, oh that'd be a sight too see. It would be cool to see all those other figures you listed Ender, that'd be sweet, even that new Mainframe in which he looks really fit. Well I hope the figures turn out good though, but we'll see.

I am a hard core fan of the 3.75" line for sure, I grew up with them... My faves are from 82 until about 85 or so, that was the range of time I really 'played' with them... but toys have to change to keep up with the times, we saw it all through the 82-94 years, and again in recent years. Sigma-6 is running good now, I am not saying that this new 25th Anniversay set will be "Sigma-6", but it most likely is going to have some of the sigma-6 type of construction to it, especially with Hasbro saying it was going to have a lot of added articulation...

I would love reissues (updated with new sculpts) of the original first few years of figures, that would be sweet.

--== Paragon ==--

25th Anniversary Release
 

I'm with Nemesis Enforcer on this one, I'm going to reserve judgment till I see pictures of them. It's nice to see we have them coiming out this year but I wish they release DTC wave 4 in the meantime.

First 25th anniv figure is up at gijoe.com!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/default...4B98FB9D3FC9EB3

Image doesn't appear on the webpage. But if you click above Storm Shadow the image will load!

The link anyway incase any one gets stuck!

http://www.hasbro.com/gijoe/closeup...ShadowLarge.jpg

Oh my f*cking god! Yaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas!

Looks like you beat me to the punch. Very cool looking figure. Looks like they are using the double jointed knees for some added articulation. Love the detailing on the accessories too. Can't wait to see what else Hasbro has in store for us.

Clearly the best Storm Shadow ever. If all the figs look this good, I will buy every one of them.

I'm pleasantly surprised. I had ideas on what to expect but whether Hasbro would follow thru, that was an entirely different matter! I like the Stormy for the most part but at the same time, I wish there was a tad more. I like the addition of the loin cloth that came from VvV. I'd prefer him to have knee pads (ala DD's influence). And lastly, I'm not sure if I'm down with the sandals. I know, I know, they are typical martial art shoes but they just look more like sandals to me.

Please notice that there is most likely NO O-RING! The analysts over on the JBL believe there is a chest articulation and then ball n socket joint for the legs. You can already see the double-jointed knees and then articulation above the elbow and on the forearm. Notice also that you can NOT see the joints on the shoulder and elbow (which is more like the late GI Joe figures as opposed to ARAH and is that a BAD THING???). I don't see ankle articulation but I'm GUESSING there's a swivel calf (pant meets leg wrapping). Anyway, word up.

Hasbro will be releasing the names and pics of the 1st 10 (we're not sure if it's a random 10 or the 1st 10 on their list) on their website over the next few weeks or months. Expect these to see mass release sometime this summer. Don't be surprised if Hasbro releases these AFTER the convention OR that HTS will be at the Con where the hardcore fans get 1st dibs.

Understand, there are a ton of rumors floating around. I can see a $10 price point for these; just like the SW VOTC stuff. But there's another rumor floating around that these will come in 5-packs and retail for $25. Only rumors/speculation.

And I admit, it'd be REALLY funny if these killed off the S6 line.

Lmao
 

:D LMAO :D Thats tickled me... it would be hilarious..sort of sigma 6 wouldnt be a one year flash.. it wouldnt even be a pop or a fart.

As for the figure.. this thing is cookin.. I'm hoping this isnt the best of the bunch.. and hasbro has set a good tone to which they will follow with more impressive releases.

But you like Sigma Six :confused:

I'm not sold on these yet. Cuz a picture may be worth a 1000 words, but it's still just a picture.

I ask from these figures

1. Somewhat compatible with previous joes, by that I mean...scale (height). If these wind up shrimpy 3 1/4" midgets forget it, slightly larger might be passable or at least a fun "new line"...I dunno.

2. They can sit down. Darn it, super articulation is bupkiss if they can't even sit.

3. $7 or less. Joe fans aren't Star Wars fans...actually based on the last VOTC releases, Star Wars fans ain't star wars fans. So much of that went on markdown and is still there in some places. And that pushes parents away in droves. An 8-inch figure next to it on the pegs for $10 or less...why buy 3 3/4"?

4. Quality. If the stuff is too fragile...ain't cool. You can design a great figure, but if the paint ops are sloppy...ain't cool.

I dont think the S6 line has to worry, this is only a 25th anniversary thing with only 25 new figs coming out, right? I bet that a good month before these come out, there will be no new S6 stuff, and no new restocks, then we'll have a good 2 months of these things sitting around everywhere, then back to S6...

I like these though, very well done, if this is setting the standard for them all, I will be impressed. Let's hope this isn't the best of the entire 25 line though, and everything else is 'so-so'.

--== Paragon ==--

WOW! That is a phenomenal toy. Granted, the protos always look better than the finished product, but just the same... WOW. If they're all up to this quality, and if they all present classic versions of the characters like this one does, I'll definitely find the cash for each and every one.

As for this...



Everyone seems to think they'll be charging a lot because of the prices on the VOTC Star Wars figures, but no one seems to remember that Hasbro pays a licensing fee to Lucasfilm.

As an example: Wizards of the Coast (a Hasbro subsidiary, as it happens) owns Dungeons & Dragons. A typical Wizards of the Coast Dungeons & Dragons book costs $20.00. When WoTC was making the Star Wars RPG, their books of the same size and page count cost $30.00. This was because of the licensing fees they had to pay to Lucas in addition to the cost of making the book itself.

I see no reason to think action figures are any different. They have to charge more because they're paying more to Lucasfilm for the Star Wars rights in addition to the cost of just making the figures. But since Hasbro owns G.I. Joe, I would guess these Joe figures, if comparable to the VOTC figs in quality, will cost less than their Star Wars counterparts.

note the theory of the 5-pack for $25...

They should be able to sit down just fine. Ball joint hips, yo. NOT V-crotch.

The question isn't necessarily height, but do you really want figures THIS detailed next to your ARAH stuff? That's how I feel about the 2002 stuff and the ARAH. I don't mix the two due to detailing. Let's face it, Stormy has arm muscle! While we know this is a shot of what's to come, the Marvel Showdown stuff is painted, for the most part, pretty well.

I am a S6 fan but a lot of it has to do with THAT being the only game in town. And honestly, I like the larger scale and added articulation.

Five different 5-packs for $25 each would be fine with me, I'd actually like that better because it would be easier to get them all (rather than hunting single carded figures), also prevents peg warmers and short packed figures (if they setup the 5-packs correctly)...

Now... As for Sigma-6, I put off getting them for an entire year, finally I couldnt take it anymore, I needed my Joe fix. :) I actually was happy with Sigma-6 and glad I finally got into it...

For the 2002 line, yeah, you are on target there... Too many muscles (like the 1995 Star Wars line), just doesnt fit in... The old/new mold thing I can get past, but the out of shape, super huge muscle thing doesnt work for me.

--== Paragon ==--

I don't think it will be the first 25 figures released; I think it will be the most popular sellers Hasbro has had over the past 25 years. So when thinking of who it may be, I would think of who was the best selling ever. SS, SE, CC, Duke, Destro, Zartan, are givens. I wouldn't just think the first 13 with an added 12. I will probably make special shelf space for these guys away from the rest unless they turn out to be fodder, but I doubt they will be. Hasbro wants to impress both the collectors, retailers, and market. I also think it will be the most iconic versions of those figures.

I dunno, I'd probably put 'em with my ARAH figures. That is, I'd replace the existing versions of these 25 with the new versions. I use the 2002 Beachhead with my ARAH figures. I do think this Storm Shadow looks pretty muscular, but I don't think he's going to be as steroid-ed out as the original JvC characters were.

I really guess I'll have to wait and see what they look like in person though...

Well done Hasbro! I love you!
 

I'm still a wee bit disapointed that the sculpts aren't more original in terms of ARAH proportions, but after seeing the new SS I can over look that. How will he look with older Joe's though?

I know some have said that this isn't the GI Joe they know and have been causing a fuss. Okay the sculpt maybe different, and had disapointed me a little because its not more ARAH like. But its styled on the classic figures, so thats cool with me... If you wanna see something that isn't Joe go look at Sigma 6. A lot of characters aren't easily guessable. Tunnel Rat for example. It doesn't matter what figures we get in the 25th anniv line. We will know who they are for sure by just looking at them!

Sigma 6 rant over.

The questions on my mind now are:

• Will we see vehicle rehashes?

• Is this the end of the line... One last push before the 3 and 3/4 inch line is killed off in favour of S6? Or is this just the beginning of something very special?

Who knows. It may well come down to sales.

I can't help but feel a little uncertainty about the long term future of Joe. Especially with the lack of DTC wave 4. Perhaps I should just enjoy the short term future instead, a future that is looking very bright indeed!

Praise the god of Pawtucket!

Dave

Here is a question?
 

As I pretty much said, I think if theres to be any future for the 3 and 3/4 inch line it will depend on sales of the 25th anniv line. Obviously if it does well, we stand a better chance of more new Joes.

With the lack of Joes in the past few years and the nature of the DTC line, it's important these figures sell well... That is my feeling... If not, I think the 3 and 3/4 inch line will be done with.

Dave

25th Anniversary line
 

A very good start by Hasbro!! I will be getting all of them!! Storm Shadow never looked better. The details are superb. This is the Storm Shadow I always wanted!!