Guys.. can we cut it with the collection pics?
 

ok,
Ok I'm done.

I have to agree with the sentiment here; I do find it pretty demoralising to come to the site and see multiple pictures where figures are just standing on desks or coffee tables or sheets, all on battle stands, and there's no context to the pic other than "these are my toys."

I don't profess to be the most artistic or most talented photographer here, but I do always try to think about the background/setting, what the characters are doing, the angle I'm using, etc. Then I pick the best shot or two of the setup to post here, because I hope to get feedback on these elements as well as just which figure(s) I included.

Don't get me wrong -- I truly LOVE seeing pictures with dozens of figures in, but in a diorama so they look like characters and not just action figures. Cobra rallies, Joe briefings or mission prep, that sort of thing. One of my earlier posts was of a setup I did with all my ninja characters & troops of the time and it was partly just for the sake of showing loads of ninja figures but also because I wanted to see them in some action. Other army shots with context that come to mind are Soundwave's Cobra Comm centre and Violentfix & Sonneilon's stories featuring a Cobra rally and a huge pile of dead Vipers respectively...

There are other sites geared towards showcasing collections, like yojoe.com's user pictures section, but it was the creativity and the imaginative dioramas that brought me to this site and that I hope to contribute to. But now I feel it's more likely I'll have the one or two shots I select to post get buried quickly -- wouldn't be so bad if everything were highly creative, then it'd be a challenge to up my game & get noticed, but there's a lot of shots that you can't even discuss the technique or ideas behind and the comments seem to be losing that element of criticism in general.

A slightly related note is regarding people who post a LOT of pics at once, like ten or more, whether they're collection pics or actual dioramas. I know there's no upload limit but surely the fact that we all post into the same photo section warrants some common courtesy? The site membership has increased quite a bit over the last couple of years and the way the pictures are stored makes it easy for individual shots to get buried under a couple dozen shots of the same setup. Just to save flooding the site, howsabout if you've got multiple shots of the same basic stuff, or just a lot of pics that you're ready to post at once, you post one here and the rest in somewhere like photobucket? You can link to the rest, or even embed the images in comments, making it easier to navigate through different user's work. Or at the very least, if you've got 20 pics ready to go, spread them out over a few days, or maybe a couple of days posting at different times, just to keep things varied? And to be honest, you'll probably get more comments per picture because everyone else won't see the block of 10 or whatever as essentially one post...

I'm not trying to offend anyone or pick on anyone in particular here; I've mentioned these feelings to a few other users here over recent weeks so figured since there's a thread addressing the issue I'd add to the debate to air my own concerns.

I second both sentiments. Past couple weeks it has gotten really out of hand and I'm glad urbn sab stepped up to say something, I felt I haven't been here long enough to step up. But I started coming to this site daily because it was creative and the shots told a story. If you look at the pics from this weekends theme, you can really see some of the shots that make this such a fun thing to do. But the last few weeks when you log on all you see lame shots of 25th's standing around or *explitive* pics of a wall of 25ths still in there package, wow, if I wanted to see that I could go to retail website. second, I think it is kind of rude to upload 10 to 15 pics at a time and totally rape the 1st page of new uploads, like what was said it pushes good pics to the back alot more quickly than it should and not everybody goes through the back pages and gets to see it. This has really been bugging me and stiflied my inspiration, thus I haven't posted a new pic in 2 weeks because an hour later its pushed to page 3 because of 40 kitchen floor pics.

If you didn't, I would Rich. I totally agree with you, Stormer and Fireflyed on this one.

Ahem. As I have discussed this with Stormer already, when Hammerfel started this site, it was for all types of pictures. I have brought this issue to his attention tho he hasn't replied back yet.

maybe a new section would help Sonn

yeah i third this statement even though i have posted collection pics before just post them on the main forum



maybe scar or somone could make a thread for everyone to post there collection pics in

Okey Dokey, I've stayed silent for some time now....but no longer. You guys want to label me a bitch, go right ahead.

I haven't posted pictures on a regular basis in some time, for a few reasons. One is that whenever I post, my grouping gets shuffled off the front page faster than a dress on prom night. The second reason is, I don't know if you guys are freaked out or what by the fact that a girl posts the caliber of pics that I do, or if it's something altogether different......whatever.

I have asked, argued and reprimanded in the past about 'common courtesy' and 'respect'.......and I'm sorry, but since the whole 'Troll Incident' I've really felt neither from this site. Like I was the bad guy in all this somehow......


It seems that when I was trying to get everyone to 'play nice' I was berated for it....so I said that I'd let you all 'police yourselves' to a broader extent. And this is what happens, so tell me, which way should it be done here??

I've deleted pics when they've been 'excessive' or whatnot........only to have them re-appear again right away. The response to my doing that? When I do post up a pic or so, I get sh*tty grading..........yes, I know, the 'grading system' sucks and it should go away altogether....but it's not, so we deal with it.

I waiver on just leaving this site from time to time-due to the 'alienation' treatment I feel that I've been getting.....but I know that I'd just be giving in, and I'm not that kind of woman.


You guys need to step back and realize that this is a community, made up of all sorts of different kinds of people.....and understand that it takes all kinds to make it work. I love all the 'new arrivals' to the site.......and I'm sure that some of them might have made their way here via other Joe boards that I've posted up a link to for JoeDios........

So, let's try to all get along here and respect everyone..........thanks



What does this have to do with this thread? Well, as was stated, this is a place to come for creativity......and I'm not feeling that lately..........because these thoughts have been racing around my brain for some time now.


So all the 'vets' need to embrace the 'noobs' and encourage them to want to stay here.........

In other words, remember your manners. And if you can't, then try harder...... ;)

You know I agree with you, and well now I know why I took my pics down and limited my activity here. It just doesn't seems very friendly here. :(

Prudence, I'm sure most people would support your actions in deleting excessive pics when they are part of a batch of very similar ones, especially if there is little effort at being creative with the shots. If those people want to be vindictive and rate your pics poorly, that's their childish problem. Everyone knows the rating system sucks and is open to abuse; I pay it no attention at all, and refuse to use it. I'm glad you won't let them beat you, because the rest of us shouldn't be denied sharing your cool pics because of a few bratty malcontents.
As for the main topic of this thread, I agree in principle I've been away from the site for a month or so, so I don't know if this is has become a huge problem or not in that time. One pic is fine, especially if you drop in a link to a hosting site as already suggested. But seven or eight or more pics of figures on figure stands on a kitchen table don't grab my interest. I won't even bother looking at them or commenting on them.

Oh, and btw, that "dress on prom night" comment was a gem! :D

I've fallen into that too, the prom dress thing. I've watched my shots (which i post rarely) get booted back right quick. I just figure that's the nature of the beast.

When I emailed Mr Fel about the Collections Issue, I did ask that he create a new section for just collections. That would be a better solution than telling people to stop.

IN MY HUMBLE OPINION A NEW SECTION OF PHOTOS OF COLLECTIONS IS A HEALTHY ALTERNATIVE TO RESPECT FREEDOM AND CREATIVITY OF ALL THE MEMBERS'S.

Don't stop.
 

Waste of my time... clearly.. :rolleyes:

I guess I'm a prime example of what Fireflyed refers to as posters who upload "*explitive* pics of a wall of 25ths still in there package".... Well, I like that kind of stuff and think it looks cool. My two favorite posters on here are Randy S. and Soundwave. I like looking at MOC figures in a Joe room or a bunch of figures in a shot. Why is that so bad, but something like "Dart crouched on a rock in my backyard" is better? Anyway, if you don't like something then give it a low rating.

I have to admit, I'm not keen on collection pics in the photo gallery.

But I do tolerate them. Part of that reason why I tolerate them is down to the definition of the word diorama.

The meanings can be found here:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/diorama

Since this place is called joedios, in keeping with the title of the web address for this site, we should all tolerate these contributions, like them or not.

As G has already pointed out, this site is for pictures of all kinds, which are Joe related. So fair play I guess!

D :D

I guess..
 

Ok so I guess I should be more tolerable in future.. . what a ********

Ok, we rationaly figured out that people can post their collection pictures without a theme at the joedios photo place, but we can go one asking why people come here post hundreds of pictures and don't left one small coment to the others. What did you think? (and most of the time the ones who don't give a post are the same that post hundreds of pictures.)

First of all, Rich-that was COMPLETELY inappropriate...........I had hoped that you had a bit more respect than that.........at least for me.


Secondly, I know that we are all a bit frustrated, let's face it, when there's this much talent on one site-it can get overwhelming........ :p


I will continue to edit and/or delete as I feel is necessary..........if you don't like it, then I'm sorry........but that's the way the rules of the site go........I'm the one who gets shafted by those who don't like the rules.........and if I can deal with petty bulls**t, then so can the rest of you..........


If people cannot use common sense, then that's their problem........let's not make it everyone else's problem as well, shall we??


Remember, all of us who are bitching on this thread are NOT the ones who are (for the most part), actually coming into the forum to puruse the threads......... ;)
So we're just venting to each other.......and the problem is not being solved........all it's doing is letting off steam. (Which isn't necessarily a bad thing.....let's just try to keep it civil, shall we?) :)

Ergo, don't come to the thread and sh*t on those of us who make the attempt to 'play nicely together'.............and I'm not trying to single any one person out here..........take the time to either post on one of the person's pics who doesn't make and effort to 'get to know us' and 'gently' let them know about the forum and the etiquette rules we all try to follow........and if that doesn't work, then send them a PM.........


Does that sound do-able to everyone???


Thank you for your co-operation and understanding.........


GS

I always love seeing collection pics. Especially army builder pics. I post a mix of collection and little dio pics. Sorry if i offended anyone with my collection pics. Someone even asked me on here to post a comparison pic of a night raven and phantom just to see the size difference.

let me just say up front that I am not trying to offend anyone, and if I did, I do apologize. I understand this a place for everyone to post pictures (and what a great place it is :D ) . Like scarlet, sonn and company said early, it is frustrating when you put a lot of time in to the set and lighting and posing just to have it kicked to the back really qwik, and its nothing against the collection pics at all, as far as blk dragon is concerned I actually enjoy the giant collection pics. As far as what gen. scar said, it is an excellent point, we are really just venting to each other. As I said early, I'm not trying to be mean or not accepting of the new guys. I was just offering a suggestion for a new pic posting thread :) . I'm sorry if I pissed anyone off, and I'm not trying to push anyone away from the site. And like the general said, it would be easier to tolerate the 20 pics posted at one time if we at least had some idea of who they are. So I'll follow what scarlet said and attempt to get the silent guys involved in the forums. sorry again, I just wanted to make a suggestion and may have gone about it the wrong way.

cory-allen


ps. don't lose hope rich, we need you here!

I have been a member here since the begining. I remember a time when there was no limit to how many photos you could post at one time and even enjoyed going through them when someone would post 15 or so of a dio that they took. I have never had a problem with the photos put up here and go back a few pages every time I log on. I might not post here alot but I do look at the photos everyday. I was actually offended the last time I uploaded some photos and about half were taken back down. It doesnt bother me now but at the time I was kind of pissed. I don't really care if either way but thought I would give my two cents...

Offend.
 

As for the way you went about it, no... I believe you spoke your mind and was completely ignored for it.. why I don't know, but it does seem to be the criteria here.

My point earlier was to emphasize a growing problem, clearly those that are up in the high end of the boat don't think there is one, so when that's the case your point is rendered useless time or "petty"

As for me losing hope.. well check out my photo's check out my avatar.. as for the place needing me.. after last night... I couldn't give a s**t anymore.

lol :D You know after reading all this i'm just not gonna post anymore collection pics. Kinda sucks cuz i took a sweet new shot of my Cobra Air Force with my rattlers and new night raven. I took so much time out of my day off to set them up to upset people too. :D But i should know better. I should be outside throwing all twelve planes up in midair to take a nice shot of them in the sky. GOD I"M SO STUPID!!! No creativity over here ladys and gentleman. Anyhoo i hope I see a collection thread started where i can show them off to whoever WANTS to see them. :rolleyes:

You know, I'm really sick and tired of all the pansy-assed whining that goes on with this board. I know, I'm supposed to shrug it off and whatnot.....but this is the only Joe site that I get treated like ass on........and I'm tired of it!

You want to stay, GREAT!! You want to leave? Then play on. But I will not stand for being grouped into some sort of 'psuedo-fascist' regime...........I'm a fellow collector who took the moral high ground to try and help a site maintain some sort of glory through the contributions of it's members.........


I don't deserve the 'cold shoulder' or other 'asides' to 'the upper levels'..........


If you can't respect me or the this site, then perhaps you should re-think the time you spend here..........

I don't want to lose any members, but to feel constantly like I do when I'm here? I don't get paid for that (I don't get paid at all-it's called 'love of a hobby'........)

Thanks,

GS

Ok, and is this how new guys should behave here? Shouldn't them show some respect. Cut the sarcasm here, whatch out where are you stepping. People here knows that I'm not the one who come for a fight easy. I just did it once, but time proved I wasn't wrong and this behavior of yours proof them I'm not over reacting. S
So, look at your acts and do what a man should do after a rude post where you are a newbbie. Ask for apologize!

"Ask for apologize"? uh yea. Not sure what that means. Anyway hope that new section gets started. But hey as newbie here i'll know my role until i hit three thousand posts lol Newbie.....give me a break :rolleyes:

Then your opinion counts (maybe) and you're in the running for mod status.

My opinion counts regardless. :D Can't mod, i'm only here to offend people with my sarcasm.

Isn't that what this site is based on Offending People :D
Hell it happens so much.



First: Learn to speak English and get a spell checker. To think your a teacher :rolleyes:
Second: WTF are you the forum bouncer ? Step off joker

Respect.
 

I can't think who you might be? :rolleyes:

However taking the piss out of someone's english because they are from a foreign country isn't cool. You should know that without stepping into any forum that would be frowned upon by most communities.

Love the title "Respect" after looking at your track record aren't the last person to lecture anyone on respect?

Doesn't mean you should follow suit
 

Just because I don't respect anyone doesn't mean you should follow suit? :rolleyes:

This is a great site! There is alot of talent here, I enjoy looking at each & every picture on here. I agree looking at 20 pictures in a row of the same 20 figures on stands on the kitchen table is boring. I do enjoy the pics of army builders lined up (that one with the 61 v1 BATs is sick, I could pay off the mortgage with that!) So get out your camera, shoot some Joes & lets have some fun. Oh, & Gen. Scarlett - you rock, keep up the good work!

Wow, well unlike you I'll be the Bigger Man and walk away.

You do that..
 

You do that.. and think carefully next time you open your mouth, ;)

LOL!! Love the internet tough guys they are so entertaining

Geez LOUISE you guys! It's a wonder GS doesn't just ban EVERYBODY and start over with trained monkeys!

I guess..
 

I guess you can't walk away after all.. :rolleyes:

I agree given the amount of crap some people get away with.

No because I just find you funny. I haven't seen a good comedy act in awhile.