It's interesting to hear about the Flickr side of things. The first time I experienced cliques was when reading "like i posted on flickr" comments, which I wondered why folks were plugging another picture site. I thought "this is JoeDios! They should be posting Joe stuff in a site about Joe stuff." Nothing about o-rings or whatnot entered my mind. It's a sad tale in the history of Joe sites, I guess.

Concerning MSN, for me using MSN as chat tool was just it. I'm not a very old member of JD, and I certainly don't consider myself an elite. My history on the Net includes sites that offer live chat. Since 1992 I have been active on a MUD, and you can't get more live than that. Thus my handle, Death at Midnight. So using MSN for chat was just natural. Posting comments and waiting for feedback for me is more alien.

The whole concept of cliques doesn't seem accurate, though. It seems members who are older than I here are also at the position that cliques in JD has taken them by surprise too.

Anyway, I agree with Hammerfel.. take pics and be part of the JoeDios team.

:D

Some people, including me, post on Flickr, but I try to post only pictures that weren't posted here. And the motivation is that we can expand our vision, with other friends that never came here at JD. And I was tired of people that didn't like Chap Mei and Elite Force and kept telling how bad they are in articulation and s one. However I didn't go around saying there were cliques, elitists, groups and such things. I moved that pictures to Flickr where are groups that are only interested in Chap Mei, other about Elite Force, Star Wars and others about PTE... We have free will and post where we want. I'm saving Joe pictures for JoeDios and using flickr to show my hobby about other toy lines for diferent friends. Keep saying there are cliques, elitists and such things don't help. We should all keep posting and comenting and that's it. Bets choice would be close this threat and any other with this intend. Sorry PA, but that's how I see things about this. Last time a drama like this was put out we lost members and not only one.

Yeah, I have to agree with this. I saw MSN and Flickr as tools, and O-ring and 25th as toys, not elitist groups I had to "side with". It's a shame some see it that way. Time to close the thread. Framing these tools and toys in such a divisive way is not healthy.