Time & time again it has been said that the 25th style sculpts will not be used by the Club & by Hasbro.
The Club will only use the older molds. I feel like a broken record reminding people about this. :p

I hope you're right, us old o-ring fans need some new stuff every now and then! ;)

Goldbug, things can always change.

The Collector Club has to pay Hasbro to get them to make a limited run of figures. I can only assume that they figure out costs based on how many figures are made. I'm just saying, using the 25th molds have to be easier by now with all the interchangable parts (well, Hasbro can change them up easier than the buyer) and it'd have to be cheaper. Or at least, I'd think it'd be cheaper.

As for a decrease in buyership, that's another matter. It kinda comes down to the WHYS of doing Con Sets which nobody has answered. When I first heard about the Crimson Viper set way back when, I thought the main purpose for them were incentives to go. I'm guessing that's not the case anymore. And I suppose a 25A body style wouldn't scream COLLECTOR IF the Con Sets are seen as Collector Items.

For someone like myself, the con sets are a chance to pick up some new and (mostly) cool figures. But then again, I've never been a Joe collector per se, but more a Joe fan. I never leave anything in the package, I buy toys to use. And I'll happily modify the rarest figure if I think it needs it, because the resale value means nothing to me because I'll never sell my Joes. I don't automatically buy the con sets just because of what they are - if they don't appeal to me, then I don't bother with 'em. All I know for sure is that if they ever went to 25th style, it wouldn't matter how cool the concept was, I'd pass on them.

True but for now Hasbro is keeping the 25th molds to themselves.
As far as I know the Club has to ask Hasbro for permission to use any molds. Hasbro has told them they can have access to all the old o-ring ones.
Also the Transformer Con exclusives are usually older molds too. Ones that Hasbro isn't currently using etc.

Well there we go. I thought I had read something like this as well, but I wasn't 100% sure. :)

Good point about sales. My question is, if you can't purchase a bagged set until you order a boxed set, one would assume roughly a 1 to 1 ratio. I wanna know how they sell out bagged sets BEFORE the boxed sets? Do they allow you to buy multiple bagged sets AFTER you get a boxed set?

The reason I think they haven't sold out the 2007 set is because no one wants to pay for 15 figures when they only want 7. Honestly, how many sets do you think they would have sold if they made 12 Night Stalkers, Lt Clay Moore Rip it and the Night Stalker Commander instead of rehasing a bunch of the original 12 and adding sparks and Female Doc? I know that the 2005 and 2006 sets didn't sell that well, but I bought 2 of those, but not 2 of the 2007 set for that reason. Everyone talks about how they want some nightstalkers, but don't wanna dish out $268 for them. Ok, maybe this paragraph is more about me than the public at large. But notice how fast Army builders tend to sell? Well, if the Idea is good! (Can you say Cobra Bazooka Trooper = Peg Warmer? )


I know, most people won't pay that for the con sets, anyway. The Price does make it out of reach for a lot of people. The good thing is like Outrider says, it gives "The Fellowship of the O Ring" something new and cool to buy. I've started to buy troop builders in 25th mold, but I'm not gonna buy joes. If they switch back to ARAH (which they're not!, I know!) I'll start buying again...but they will flood every set with te same figures like they do with the 25th....I think I'm just gonna selectively collect. Buy what I want and screw the rest. I quit being a Completionist in 1991.

The DD Red Shadows were different than the Action Force Red Shadows? I mean I know they were different, but are they THAT different? School me.....

Frank, I was getting the idea from earlier posts that the UK Red Shadows coming from Action Man are quite different than the US version, whatever that means. But being US-Centric, what Joes are called in other countries aren't really GI Joe to me.

Same here Frank. Once Hasbro discovered neon colours I became very selective. :rolleyes:

The thing about wanting the con set to be 25th style.

So you want to pay $300 for 15 repaints? Aren't fans complaining about those now at regular retail prices?

I mean, I'm out of touch and well, cheap. But I don't want to pay a lot for figures, especially repaints.

I never wanted to collect collectibles. Collectibles are useless objects pushed as having value based on hype. I just want cool action figures.