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Lava Boss 11-16-2006 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranger_22
The SWAT guys told me that guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.


Wrong. Chuck Norris kills people. If you live to see the dawn it's because Chuck Norris allows it.

Mobius_1 11-16-2006 09:34 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lava Boss
Wrong. Chuck Norris kills people. If you live to see the dawn it's because Chuck Norris allows it.

lol

Sonneilon 11-16-2006 10:31 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lava Boss
Wrong. Chuck Norris kills people. If you live to see the dawn it's because Chuck Norris allows it.


WHAT???

Are you telling me DMX lied to me???

Ranger_22 11-16-2006 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonneilon
WHAT???

Are you telling me DMX lied to me???


:D

Bayer 11-18-2006 07:30 AM

There are a lot of things to be said on either side of the gun issue. I view guns as much a tool as a screwdriver. The biggest thing to remember is that an individual with the motivation to do someone harm or commit a crime will find a way, with or without a gun. It is the same with alarm systems and locks and guards. I can get on a soap box here but this isn't really the place for it.

As far as the Army vs. Marines is concerned...the traditions of the Marine Corps. makes them naval sharpshooters and amphibious ground troops. These are still held as the primary aspects of the Marine training. The army has had to grow more than any other branch of the US military. The Navy has been evolving from 1941 through today. The Air Force has been at the forefront of technology since its inception in the late 40's. The Army has been the slowest to evolve and embrace those changes. Once this evolution started, some things such as the marksman training has suffered. The army also started segregating MOS groups and due to this segregation, the training is adjusted to fit the MOS requirements.

blaster_e11 11-20-2006 12:52 AM

well i can understand why TGR is disturbed by the sight of young people learnig to use firearms.

In my country it's not allowed to hold a weapon,

not because it's an oppressive one : we're one of the oldest modern democracies around the world along with the UK and the US but because such "tools" can be used in many dangerous ways and it's unavoidable that someone gets killed in the process.

most of our revolutions (and we had a lot of those) happened in spite of people being armed. The revolutionaries just took the weapons from where they were stocked...

Ranger_22 11-20-2006 02:42 AM

I have to own fire arms for protection. And target practice. I didn't know France does that. Oh well.

blaster_e11 11-20-2006 06:37 AM

i tend to rely on the government (military, police and justice) for my protection ;)

Ranger_22 11-20-2006 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by blaster_e11
i tend to rely on the government (military, police and justice) for my protection ;)


Yeah but the U.S. is full of crazy people. Like George Bush or Donald Rumsfeld. Thats why the U.S. is a sleeping giant.

Bayer 11-20-2006 05:31 PM

"Under every government the dernier [Fr. last, or final]
resort of the people, is an appeal to the sword; whether to defend
themselves against the open attacks of a foreign enemy, or to check
the insidious encroachments of domestic foes. Whenever a people...
entrust the defence of their country to a regular, standing army,
composed of mercenaries, the power of that country will remain
under the direction of the most wealthy citizens."

Anonymous 'framer' of the US Constitution, Independent Gazetteer, January 29, 1791


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