This.

See, I have no problem with people not liking one of my pics.

But when there's nothing but positive comments in the picture's thread but a crap rating, how is one to learn what he did wrong that he may work on improving that in subsequent photos?


I know Hammerfel once had it set so people couldn't give out ratings until they'd done, I think it was a hundred posts...
What I can't help but wonder is, can that number be raised to one million or so?

Ratings
 

erm.. he reads the comments people have put... obviously if he has 10+ comments all saying its a great photo and great setup/execution and then a rating of 2* then someone has obviously downgraded it bad without commenting why.. either because they dont like the figure choice or because they simply dont like the picture.... Anyone active in this community will know by now the ratings have been abused before by other people.

Hence why we are discussing this. It's only really a problem if you believe the rating system cant be abused.
The fact of the matter is if the ratings were like Outrider said.. embedded into the 'add reply/comment' then it would stop the one star bandit from commenting and stop people giving out harsh ratings without even saying why they rated it like that. With the current setup we all come to the site and rate and comment at the same time most of the time everyone is happy, we only seem to get this when the one star bandit shows up.
I think we did a poll last time > Poll *am I right?* correct me if I'm wrong, when this was raised. If I see something I think can be improved and i've rated it, i'll comment for sure and especially if its justifiable. The bottom line is like sonneilon stated recently
"some shots are of poor standard, they are out of focus and the posing is awful" if the contributor gets 26 views, no comments and a 1* it should be pretty obvious to him without 15 members leaving comments telling him whats wrong.

So has Hammerfel already stated, the ratings system can stay in place or it can be removed, we only have to tell him that it should be removed.. but if its going to stay you all need to adapt and just realise there are people out there with a 'sad life' and that no matter how many times they think they are going to ruin our contributions.. it wont matter... because we are stronger.

Most of the veterans have posted on this thread, as I expected, its always a touchy subject because of the topic and because i think last time we voted a good proportion decided to keep it whilst a handful wanted it gone.
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Hey Rich,
That poll was almost 2 yrs ago.There has been a lot more members since then and maybe a new poll should be given,

On that subject there has been alot of poor rating on my star wars pics that I posted in the past for no reason.My thoughts are that they don't like anything but GI JOE.Crossover weekemds are great to show case your other collections.

I vote to remove the ratings.

Like everyone said words are better to help you improve your pics.I think I have improved quite abit because of them.

thats my 2 cents

New Poll
 

Well Phil, definately a valid point, I mean I didn't check the date when the last poll was done. I've started a new poll with the current one staying open until August. I guess we could have a review of this poll after then.

I'm also making a list of some of the veterans here. I will pm those myself individually so that they make sure to cast their view on it before it ends.

Last time the poll was split pretty much 50/50 with the exception of 2 people voting for to keep the ratings. That's 22 members voting.. its hardly a landslide.

Just to put it out there, I'm kind of with you on this, I've only got this community and some help on flickr.com to thank for improving my shots, most of the time my shots weren't half bad, but i always felt i could be inspired more and improve my shots to another step.. Joe dios has helped me take that step.

I'd only want to keep the ratings if they could be imbedded/attached to the comments. So that anyone posting would have to submit their name to the rating. That's not going to happen as far as last time it would cost too much to have it done. It's intergrated somehow with the software. So the viable options are for us to keep the ratings and ignore the idiot... or remove them completely.

I hope this new poll is to everyones satisfaction. its your time to have your say on the matter. :)

Here's the problem (FEL TAKE NOTICE).

Some ppl have beefs against others.

Some are subjective over objective.




"oh gawd. That guy used an old 80s o-ring! 1-star!"

"what the??? that guy crapped me on the past, 1-star for him!!!"

"I hate Falcon. Hey, here's a shot of Falcon, 1-star!"


Those are the mooks that destroy the rating system.

Banned Members
 

I always thought they were nice people.. :p speaking of people that feel crapped on. It should be mentioned that includes former banned members from this site who return anonymously to rate the photos and spoil it for everyone... those people do exist.. and that is why removing the ratings would benefit the entire community.

Please do not worry though. I have already devised a scheme that will mean you can rate pictures as well as comment them. It would require you to comment first though. :cool:

Open votes now!
 

Insted of an average rating I think it would be beneficial that ratings are at the end or beginning of the post of those who comment. That way we can see who rated what. Open votes now!