I agree, Redux was an abomination. The original version was better but was too weird to be pure war movie.

not really a movie but I like M*A*S*H*

Well Apocalypse Now was based on Joseph Conrad's "Heart of Darkness", they just tailored it to the Vietnam War. I think the best part is when Col Kurtz tells Martin Sheen about when the VC hacked off the limbs of the Vietnamese Children that his SF unit had just innoculated.


"Kurtz: I've seen horrors... horrors that you've seen. But you have no right to call me a murderer. You have a right to kill me. You have a right to do that... but you have no right to judge me. It's impossible for words to describe what is necessary to those who do not know what horror means. Horror. Horror has a face... and you must make a friend of horror. Horror and moral terror are your friends. If they are not then they are enemies to be feared. They are truly enemies. I remember when I was with Special Forces. Seems a thousand centuries ago. We went into a camp to inoculate the children. We left the camp after we had inoculated the children for Polio, and this old man came running after us and he was crying. He couldn't see. We went back there and they had come and hacked off every inoculated arm. There they were in a pile. A pile of little arms. And I remember... I... I... I cried. I wept like some grandmother. I wanted to tear my teeth out. I didn't know what I wanted to do. And I want to remember it. I never want to forget it. I never want to forget. And then I realized... like I was shot... like I was shot with a diamond... a diamond bullet right through my forehead. And I thought: My God... the genius of that. The genius. The will to do that. Perfect, genuine, complete, crystalline, pure. And then I realized they were stronger than we. Because they could stand that these were not monsters. These were men... trained cadres. These men who fought with their hearts, who had families, who had children, who were filled with love... but they had the strength... the strength... to do that. If I had ten divisions of those men our troubles here would be over very quickly. You have to have men who are moral... and at the same time who are able to utilize their primordial instincts to kill without feeling... without passion... without judgment... without judgment. Because it's judgment that defeats us. " -From IMDB.com

The movies strength isn't in the action, but the subtlety of the dialog and the images. yeah, I agree, the Redux is a little too long. they could have cut out about an hour of the original movie and it would have been just as good. The best parts are the end, when he meet Kurtz and Kurtz asks him to end it and let his son know why he has become what he had become.


Another GREAT Part of the movie ;

Soldier: Roach, there's gooks in the wire. You hear 'em?
Roach: Yeah
Soldier: You need a flare?
Roach: Nah, he's close man, he's real close.
(fires the M79 Grenade launcher followed by an explosion and scream)
Roach: Mutha F**ker
Willard: Soldier, do you know who's in command here?
Roach: Yeah. [turns away]

This is true for Rambo I. :D

Man, where do I start.

(no particular order)
Patton
We were soldiers
The Longest Day
Blackhawk down'
Gettysburg
Gods and Generals ( I think I'm the only one in the country who likes this movielol)
Saving Private Ryan
Band of Brothers
predator
Aliens
Heartbreak Ridge
Flags of our Fathers
Full Metal Jacket
just to name a few

So its a chick flick

funny!!

Nobody have mentioned...

BASIC with John Travolta and Samuel L. Jackson.

Thats because it blew!

Basic is more of a whodunit than a war movie to me, not bad per say but doesn't hold a candlre to movies Like Blackhwk Down or We were Soldiers, which makes me tear up every time I watch it.