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Mobius_1 11-13-2006 06:15 PM

I know ender would say that the marines have the best shots right? ;)

Ranger_22 11-14-2006 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Mobius_1
I know ender would say that the marines have the best shots right? ;)


Yeah. But really the army does.

ender098 11-14-2006 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ToneGunsRevisited
And some people wonder why some americans and canadians (sorry Shane) go in school shooting at others :eek: . I don't know if I would be happy with my son learning how to fire a gun. I don't even know if there is a need to it.

And parents get affraid to left childrens play with some PC games, playstation games, watching MATRIX and some other movies, or even playing with G.I. Joes... :confused:

I think weapons aren't for kids. Not even for adulpts. Sorry to be the dumbass here, but it is what I think about this matter.




True, but the first reaction any oppressive regime has is to disarm the populace. Hitler did it, The Japanese did it to the Okinawans. It would be a wonderful world if there was no need for guns...and nukes for that matter, but sadly they are a fact of life.

I don't own any personal firearms, except a .22 rifle that is in my Dad's Closet back in NY. I think weapons are like cars, liquor and sex, if you're honest with your kids and teach them the power and responsibility that goes with these things, they will grow up to respect these things. If you don't show them how to handle or deal with these situations, you get kids who's only experience is blowing someone away in HALO, and when they get a real gun in their hands, they don't realize until it's too late that the power is real and FINAL. Teach them safety and respect, if they get their gun savy from friends, they'll be nuthing but thugs!

I've personally fired the M-16A1 and A2, M-60, M-249, M-240G, AT-4, LAW, M-2, M-3A1 grease gun, M67 (find that dinosaur these days), M203, Baretta 92F, M1911A1, AK-47,DRAGONOV SVD, Desert Eagle, Glock 9mm pistol (I forget what the nomenclature was), M82A1 SASR, the Uzi 9mm, the Mac-10, M-19 grenade Launcher, Luger 9mm, Various gauges of shotguns and sports rifles (I had a huhge family and they're all rednecks, and have literally hundreds of hunting guns!) but my all time favorite was when I got to fire a Soviet Flamethrower when I did security for a Special Forces weapons Demonstration! Whew!!


Ok, now the Army vs Marines question! I'm gonna say Marines are the better shot because I have been in both the Army54th engineers (1987-1990) and the Marines(1995-present). In the Army, our Drill Sergeants made all adjustments for windage and elevation on our sights. We were never even told about the effects wind, haze, light refraction, etc. has on a round impacting the target. The Marines engage targets from 200m, 300m and 500m on a set course of fire. The Army uses pop ups staged from 50m to 300m in 50m increments. The pop up scenario is more realistic, but for marksmanship skills, the Marines are known for distance shooting. Of course, the record for longest sniper shot isn't help by a US Marine or a US Soldier, it's held by a Canadian! (look up sniper on wikipedia, it's at the bottom) but before that, the record distance kill was Gunnery Sergeant Carlos Hathcock, USMC. That's not to say Soldiers can't shoot, they can, but Marines DRILL shooting into your brain and spend more time teaching you how to do it!

silencer 11-14-2006 04:56 PM

I've never seen guns as a problem.

Nuclear weapons however... :(

Dersham 11-14-2006 07:19 PM

Hah! Thats awesome us Canadians got the best shooter. I wear glasses though I doubt I'd be any good with a gun in my hands. Though I have heard that we have more guns in Canada than people but with a population of 30 million that really isn't saying much.

Ranger_22 11-15-2006 02:51 AM

Okay okay ender. Marines have a better shot. fine. But all those guns you fired! I hate when people get the Uzi and the Mac 10 mixed up. Most people think the Mac 10 is an Uzi.

ender098 11-15-2006 11:21 AM

I can tell a MAC-10 from an Uzi, but I can't tell a Toyota Corolla from a Honda Civic. Aint that funny? I don't know crap about cars, I can barely tell one from another unless it's blatently diffrent (like the PT Cruiser). People love the way I can tell you about diffrent wepons but can only describe cars by color! LOL!

Sonneilon 11-15-2006 01:00 PM

Guns don't kill people! People kill people! So says DMX, yo. (c'mon, Exit Wounds was just on... Oh wait, was it Romeo Must Die?)

I agree w/ Frank. Guns are a tool used for occupation, hobby or sport. It's the mooks out there who don't know how to solve problems that they rely on them.

Ranger_22 11-15-2006 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ender098
I can tell a MAC-10 from an Uzi, but I can't tell a Toyota Corolla from a Honda Civic. Aint that funny? I don't know crap about cars, I can barely tell one from another unless it's blatently diffrent (like the PT Cruiser). People love the way I can tell you about diffrent wepons but can only describe cars by color! LOL!


Same here! :p

Ranger_22 11-15-2006 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Sonneilon
Guns don't kill people! People kill people! So says DMX, yo. (c'mon, Exit Wounds was just on... Oh wait, was it Romeo Must Die?)

I agree w/ Frank. Guns are a tool used for occupation, hobby or sport. It's the mooks out there who don't know how to solve problems that they rely on them.


The SWAT guys told me that guns don't kill people, people with guns kill people.


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