Well, most people who go to the movies because they "like the theater" prefer movies with little actions, a lot of drama and dialog. (Movies like "The English Patient" and "Remains of the Day".) SilentDusty is like me I think. We have enough Drama and Dialog in our daily lives and we go to the movies to "suspend our disbelief" and lose our minds!

I find it hard to believe that the movie going public liked that CGI mess called "Transformers: Revenge of the Fallen" and doesn't like THIS film. Oh well.

I get the feeling that a lot of hard core Transformers fans look down upon GI Joe, as some sort of rival. I get often the same feeling from many hard core Star Wars fans. I am mostly talking about the toy lines.

I wouldn't be amazed to learn that some Transformers fan would not like a GI Joe movie simply because it's GI Joe.

As a Transformers fan I find those suppositions offensive.

I loved Revenge Of The Fallen and I'm sure I'll love Rise Of Cobra too. I like fun action movies, and even if it doesn't match Marvel and Sunbow continuities I'll get a kick out of it.

The toy packaging was a dead give away, the actor however did not go through the same procedure as the rest of the cast to laser etch his face into a perfect mold.
He's not one of the starters so he doesn't get that treatment, should be obvious enough really.

I still have to wait a whole week for this movie....

The movie makes the cobra gunship look good. I got a feeling ppl will start buying it .. i need to get one.

yeah that thing was hardcore . as sumone mentioend elsewere i fwonder if it was Firefly piloting that thing ?

I found that it was very TF vs GI Joe when I grew up. *shrug* TF looked down on GI Joe just as the JOe fans looked down on TF. Just how things worked here with kids.



As well, it Brenda Frasier was NOT listed as part of the cast for the GI Joe movie by IMDB. However, those who have seen it KNOW he's in it. IMDB DOES have Fraser listed under their TRIVIA page and believe it or not, he plays a descendant from the O'Connell family.

Please note, IMDB is open to corrections/additions to info they have missed. So depending on which view you took. IMDB doesn't have Fraser on the cast listing which some would assume he's not in the movie. IF i were to dig further, there's a trivia piece on on him. For those who saw the movie, they KNOW he's in there as a cameo. So then, why was he excluded other than IMDB got a predraft?

Did anyone notice that it was mentioned that Snake Eyes took a vow of silence since the "hard" master was killed? I don't remember if it had a duration.. such as until the murder could be avenged. If so, could it be possible that since Storm Shadow is currrently killed--believed to be killed--we'll have a talking Snake Eyes in the future?

Gosh I hope not.

The original script had Snake-Eyes say a line at the end of the film, but Larry Hama said "AW HELL NO" and the director and producers listened.
As Larry said, having Snake-Eyes speak simply goes against his character's core.

I doubt Transformers fans even care about G.I.Joe.

G.I. Joe is a toyline that has spent 10 of the last 12 years struggling to be more than a novelty line for a bunch of h/c collectors. The 25th brought a lot of dudes into it but it still didn't sell like a real line (TF/Star Wars) The reason people had trouble finding waves wasn't because they were selling like hotcakes, but because Hasbro knew if they sent out a lot it'd be Indian Joes and you could get wave 5 for .99 a peice

How wrong of you to say Transfans don't care for Joe.

Ever find out what that line was? He does a little satisfactory "grunt" at the end there. :)

BTW,

THANK YOU LARRY HAMA!

Just saw it with my son and we both LOVED it. I like the new twists, the origins of CC, Baroness, Destro, SE & SS. The action sequences were astounding! I also loved that the good guys didn't always win (Paris, the PITT)! How refreshing! And a villain could be redeemed (Baroness)! That only happened with SS (who was pretending to be a Cobra all along) and Mercer in the comic Joeverse.

And most astounding to me, PEOPLE GOT SHOT and even STABBED! How amazing is that!?! A Neo-Viper even got his head blown off by a grenade!

Plus, unlike Transformers, we got deep back story on

1. Destro
2. Baroness
3. Duke
4. Cobra Commander
5. Snake Eyes
6. Stormshadow

and even a little personality and motivation from Scarlett (all science, linguistics, intelligence, resists emotion) and Ripcord (wants to be a fly-boy, digs Scarlett, clumsy but tenacious).

That's more than most movies can fit in 2 hours and still have crazy action. The opening rescue action sequence was insane. Especially Scarlett with her crossbow. It showed how she wasn't super-human and had to adapt and overcome to beat the armored Neo-Vipers. And Duke rescues his bud before going after the WMD's? Show's heart, something the Duke character could use more of.

I just loved it, and so did my 7 year old son. Glad I didn't read all the negativity before seeing it.

I do wish the Cobra gunship toy looked more like the movie version, and I also don't like the whole "vow of silence" thing. No Elite unit would allow that kind of thing, but I imagine they did that because they already had 4 characters in the movie get their faces burnt off, they didn't want to push for a 5th and get an R rating.

Quibbles, though. That was a fun movie!

$20 says Ripcord takes on a the new code name "Ace" in the next movie!

One correction to the original posts, I think CC's mask at the end is silver, not transparent, and I was looking pretty closely, as I'd read there were questions about it. It looks like a mix between the hood and chrome faceplate of traditional CC.

Oh, and Baroness's name is Anna, not Hannah, as in Anastasia.

I had noticed also the face mask looked silver. Wasn't sure if it was just my angle of viewing the screen (was sitting at the side of the theater instead of in the middle). The toy has a gradient transparent and opaque silver, and I kinda assumed what I saw was silverish with some transparency in there. But it looked opaque.

Agreed, the gunship toy needs to be more like the movie.. longer and the movie looked more sleek.

Finally saw it, been formulating my opinion, I have to say there was tons of stuff about that movie that needed work. Not all bad but not suxxors either.

The Good.

I LOVED Selina Miller, she was awesome (until a certain plot point that bothered me, but more on that later).
Pretty much everything with Storm Shadow and Snake Eyes Rocked (besides SE's Lips).
Liked the Pit attack, Ambush, and most of the paris chase (with the exception of a few moments with the suits)
What little Zartan did was kind of cool. Also liked the breif exchange with Zartan and Storm Shadow in Hawk's office.
Heavy Duty was much cooler than expect dispite his small roll.

The Bad:

baroness becomes a "good Guy" WTF!!!! Baroness is now an unwilling victim iwth a heart? NO! She is evil and making her a victim shatters the whole character. I can deal with not having a European background, I can even deal with her not being aristocratic, but this "innocent victim" crap totally messes up her character.
Felt a majority of the movie was a rip off of X-Men. Two people attacked by an unknown group go to a secret installation that is underground, met an unusal group of people, one of which happens to be a scientist type with red hair. Even had thier master of disguise taking the place of a person of power in the government at the end. Not a total rip off but definatly had too many elements that were impossible not to notice.
Too many "deleated sceans" that were too obvious, especially at the end. HD's sub is half the size and his co-pilot is missing for instnace. Also the "Wild weasle-esce" siut that wrapped around ripcord had disappeared by the point he had pulled his chute.

The Ugly
Rex, the whole character. One day just desides to be a bad guy and takes over the world. No real motivations for him there. Don't get me wrong, he did the best with what he was handed but really it was crap.
Not enough Destro, especially being the main vilan.
Flashbacks killed teh pace of the film
Too many "OH hey I know what they are doing" without any clues as to how the characters would have figured it out.
Plot holes you could drive a mack truck through (Destro stealing his own weapons, no real explaination of why nanites need to be weaponized or why, What was Rex's thing he had to do when he went into that bunker. Let's put the rookies in the multi million dollar suits on thier first mission with the unit.
Some very dry acting (the worst being Chaning Tatum, but even Quaid was a bit guilty of it too.

Thing is the elements are all there for a great film but the aplication just falls short. While some great parts come through, muchof the film was trudges along just trying to get somewhere.