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I don't hate SE for being a Ninja, or even his ninja ties. I know guys who have trained in Ninjitsu, it's just that it seems they overdo it in this aspect! It permeats everything in his pesonality. His original filecard said he was proficient in 12 unarmed fighting systems. What about those? How come we don't see former Tae Kwon Do or Judo competitors that Scarlett has kicked ass on coming back to kill her? I hate the fact that "EVERYTHING" about SE leads back to the ninja stuff. And they go with the ancient ninja stuff! In my JoeVerse SE is a ninja, but more along the lines of Stephen K. Hayes. Trained in Tradition, but uses modern weapons and tactics. (ie; he'll thow a grenade BEFORE a throwing star!)

I'm just curious, how many people on this site have looked up ninjitsu? They were simple Guerilla warriors, assisins and spies. A lot of the junk Hollywood associates with them is just that..."junk". Just like the Samurai. the Samurai used Muskets when they got them! It wasn't like a Samurai would pass up a better weapon just because of tradition! Modern ninja don't wear black suits and carry shuriken. They wear t-shirt and jeans and know how to kill you with a pen or letter opener if tey can't get near you with a gun.

and yeah, I hate snake eyes being the "angel of Death" that kills everyone and everything in his path so easily! But there is a matter of truth to that! Doc Holiday went to a doctor and was told he had Tuberculosis; Because of this, when he gunfought, he was hoping to get killed so he didn't have to die slowly and agonizing. His calm acceptance of death made his hands steadier than his opponents, and a relaxed draw is faster than a tense, nervous draw. I believe SE wants to die. He feels he has nothing to live for and when he goes against enemies, he's hoping they will kill him, so he's more relaxed and it works to his advantage. In my joeverse, he only worries about death when he thinks he may die and not be able to save his teammates on missions.

nuff said!

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Originally Posted by ender098

I believe SE wants to die. He feels he has nothing to live for and when he goes against enemies, he's hoping they will kill him, so he's more relaxed and it works to his advantage. In my joeverse, he only worries about death when he thinks he may die and not be able to save his teammates on missions.

That's a really cool take on the character!

that is also a samurai proverb, thos who seek death seldom find it. i have a 3rd brown belt in kung-fu and a blue in karate and have been fighting in MMA fights for a year now. i respect all forms of martial arts in one way or another, but no man, even if he was a grandmaster in every form of martial arts in the world could kill an army. thats what i ment when i started this. not that i dislike snake eyes himself, just the way they let him kill everyone in his path, only god could outdo him

Dude, didn't you ever play Dynasty Warriors? Those guys are based off historical characters and THOSE guys could decimate whole armies by themselves! ;)

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Ender: Modern ninja don't wear black suits and carry shuriken. They wear t-shirt and jeans and know how to kill you with a pen or letter opener if they can't get near you with a gun.

:)

Let's face it, whatever Snake- eyes is conceived to be, a near-superhuman death-tempting bad ass or just a regular joe, he sure as hell could give Quick kick a whipping. Assuming he was still alive to receive one ;)

lol

silencer said
"Let's face it, whatever Snake- eyes is conceived to be, a near-superhuman death-tempting bad ass or just a regular joe, he sure as hell could give Quick kick a whipping. Assuming he was still alive to receive one
lol"

sorry, not really thoguh. as far as martial arts goes ninjitsu is for backstabbing. ina face to face fight, it wouldnt last long. dont get me wrong though, i always loved ninjas, even before the turtles.

I definitely think Snake Eyes is overused. Case in point, the Devils Due Special Missions issues were supposed to focus on underused Joes, but who shows up in the Antarctica issue?

It kind of says something about a character if the only new thing you can do with him is kill him and resurrect him with ninja magic. There are so many other characters I'd like to see explored.

He used to be one of my favorite characters, but the overuse (and overpower) kind of made me sick of him. IF I use him in my dios, he'd be a lot more down to earth.

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Originally Posted by snakeeater

It kind of says something about a character if the only new thing you can do with him is kill him and resurrect him with ninja magic. There are so many other characters I'd like to see explored.

He used to be one of my favorite characters, but the overuse (and overpower) kind of made me sick of him.

I agree with that. That's why SE is done differently in my dios.

Anytime one character becomes more popular than his team, there's a problem with overusage. Be it Wolverine or Snake-Eyes. I think the absurdity really crept in the comic when Snake-Eyes could kill Cobra Commander easily and did not. That and tying every major villain into Snake Eyes' past, even it meant ruining a character (Firefly) for no good reason.

I found the whole "SE is the center of the Joeverse" really weird. What happened to just doing stories with varied characters? Certainly, those of us who had the toys at our disposal were always looking for them to show up in teh cartoon and comic. And how much time did my faves get? Hardly any. lol