when i got my Joe 5 pack the only issue i had was that Duke's arms couldn't really bend ,and then i got the cobra 5 pack and i was happy with it( even the tranny looking baroness :D )and even though i haven't been able to find many at my local stores the ones i have found i'm enjoying ,do i miss the o-ring construction ?sure but i'm also happy to be getting updated characters( snow job, flash, and breaker in particular )overall i like the 25th line and even though this is a bash the twenty fifth line thread those are just my two cents( please don't flay me alive :o )

Quote of the century. Priceless, Shane...priceless. :D :D :D

My Gung Ho doesn't stand up. I have him permanently posed like the poster for platoon. :)

One of my Complaints with the 25th is "What about NEW figures?".

Air viper? you Frankenjoe a gas mask trooper and give him a JUMP and it's NEW?
(gotta admit, I DO like the concept, it's the execution that is a cheap shot IMHO!)

Red ninja? Remember the BJ's special Red Storm Shadow and the Cobra ninja pack?

I know this is the 25th "Anniversary" and supposed to be nostalgic, but c'mon!


I keep hearing this;

"Well, ya know, I never got a Version one of ______, "
(add Duke, Snake eyes, Cobra Commander or whatever in the blank!!!)

To which I say;

"Oh, I guess you missed the Tiger Force version, the Night Force Version, the Battle Corps Version, the Ninja Force Version, the arctic Version, The Star Brigade version, the Collectors 2001 Version, the TRU Exclusive 1997 Version, the 15th Anniversary version, The Desert Patrol Pack version, the Spytroops Version, the Valor Vs. Venom Version, the DTC Version and the COMIC PACK versions as well?
What does HAsbro have to do? Buy it for you?"

GOD!!!

1,000 versions of the same figures and people want remakes of the same old figure....when are we gonna get fresh figures? When is Hasbro ever gonna finish anything? They need to remake the Headhunters and Stormtroopers....those figures sell for uber cash on ebay and you can't afford to army build them! Are we ever gonna get the rest of the Plague? Good idea, pi$$ poor execution!

This is one of my main irks as well. The 25th line is yet to give us anything fresh. I concede it's an anniversary line, but it's not yet 12 months old and we've had how many CC's, Snake Eyes, etc? But Hershel is right too, this was also a problem with the o-ring stuff as well. Hasbro's laziness is infuriating - "Okay, lets just change the colour of the paint apps on the gloves and release it as another Cobra Commander"....yeah, right!

New characters are what keep the line interesting, that's why this year's con set was so brilliant...NEW CHARACTERS...no CC, no Snake Eyes, no Duke!!! Personnel turnover is a natural evolution, especially in an active combat unit like GI Joe. Example; I've worked at the same place for 23 years, and out of around 50 employees, their are only eight or nine who are still there from when I started. Literally hundreds of employees have come and gone in that time.

But it's not just a Hasbro thing, people keep buying the stuff! I can't believe how people will buy whatever crap Hasbro slaps a "GI Joe" Logo on, no matter how Crappy! I hate to say it (and for the longest time I was guilty of it too) but some people are just sheep....blindly following whatever.

The ones that tick me off are the ones saying "Well, I didn't get a V1 flint" so they get the 25th version. I did the same with PDD! There is nothing wrong with that...if it IS a figure you don't have or need to replace! But then they go out and buy all 3 five packs, all 4 waves, etc, ad nauseum when they already have all of the versions of all of these figures.




You know, I think they should use this concept to update "The Oktober Guard" . A new lineup with new Characters. And the same with GI joe. They can use the same Codenames, just new People. A female "Flash". A white Ranger who takes Stalkers place. Or a Puerto Rican Tunnel Rat. New names, new file Cards, same specialtys and codenames!

For Exapmle:


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Code Name; MainFrame

Name; Nash, Franklin N. Rank; Gysgt E7

SSN; *** ** 9499

Primary Specialty; Tactical Data Network Operations

Secondary Specialty; Combat Engineer

Like the Original MainFrame, GySgt Nash did time in the Army (as a Combat Engineer). Swearing he would never re-up, the birth of his son drove him back to Active service, this time with the Marine Corps who thought his skills would be better used behind the keyboard of computer terminals. MainFrame has experience in Cisco Routing and Switching, Server operations, web servers and tactical microwave transmitters. If you have a calculator watch and a radio, he can build you a tactical network anywhere in the world. He's old, slow and mean, he never takes "no" for an answer and never quits. If his system doesn't work, he's been known to blow it up with C4 and start from scratch! He is qualified with the M9 9mm pistol, M16, M60, M67 90mm recoiless rifle Nato and Warsaw Pact explosives mines and booby traps and has extensive knowledge of bridging operations.


"No school like Old School baby!"



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Ok, that was a little self-promoting, but hey! I needed to illustrate a point, why not make myself as a figure!

I thought this was the Bash 25th anniversary thread, not the pimp Frank for his own Joe thread :p

A big part of the problem for sure! Back in the eighties I was guilty of being a completist, but when the line got crappy in the early nineties, I only bought what I liked and left the junk warming pegs. These days, I'd have to be considered a "minimalist", because there's not much that Hasbro releases now that I consider worthy of my hard-earned. :rolleyes: