Yeah, it floored me and like I said they have very good stuff!

I know Mr. Frank Enjoyed the stuff i sent him, and i got a sweet Hind, Snake Eyes, and Storm Shadow to boot! Although i've been too busy with my fighters to play with joes, they are safley packed away in my room. :) :cool:

I'm sure you both posted on the forum how pleased you guys were with the trade and grateful to each other. That's pretty much the basis of the post, how ungrateful some people can be when you go the extra mile.

You are sooo right! Silence has been my enemy....
I figured Silence would help us remain friends.....
After seeing your new “Where Manners Suck” logo, I think I have stayed Silent long enough. I figured you’d let this go, but since you won’t……




Man, that is RUDE. How much did you pay to DOWNLOAD them all on Kazaa or E-Mule? Hmmmm…the cost of Kazaa is Free…and I’m assuming you Already had the internet and didn’t get online ONLY to get free GI Joe comics for this complete and total @$$ who didn’t thank you for them…so..again, how much did it cost you?




Yeah, $1.47 to ship a CD is Killer. I’d DEMAND an Apology.I’d make that rude B@stard grovel!





Ok, Time for Frank to “come out of the Closet” so to speak and finally admit it’s me you’ve been talking about. Ok, I forgot to say thanks. Gee, I don’t have anything better than to keep a scoreboard beside my PC and keep score. So, Because I FORGOT to say “Thanks” in private and even publicly to you, you’re gonna assume I’m an ass and did it on purpose and make everyone suffer? Way to go, miss Manners!




No, but if someone forgets to say "thanks" you sure don't mind making them feel like ass, do you? Which is ruder? God forbid someone make the mistake of Forgetting. Never occurred to you, did it? I FORGOT…

And as for me Acknowledging I got them, yes, I probably did. And at the time I was probably doing like 1,000 things online when I received your PM or IM and I dunno…FORGOT! Sorry…I have more going on in MY LIFE than sitting around a PC keeping score on who thanks me for sending them EXTRA stuff they DIDN’T ASK FOR or maybe EVEN NEED!!! If you had asked me first, I could have saved you the time and effort of this tirade of yours and told you I have Issues 1-115 in paperback and 1-155 on CD that Shane gave me LAST YEAR!! And you could have sent it to someone worthy of your greatness who would grovel and thank the God that you are!



When you got it? You didn't have to hunt them down? Someone sent them to you? SOOOO YOU got them for FREE, too huh? You didn't even have to pay for them either, huh?

Well, hate to break it to you…not EVERYONE feels like you do. As if that “I got a six pack of Cobra Infantry” episode didn’t do enough to convince you…and convince everyone else here, too! What is with you? Is your self esteem that low that everyone has to make a big deal about you sending them something extra?

God forbid, I FORGOT!!! After you pi$$ed me off to no end with that little tirade about “You only like me because I had something for you” crap! And then I PM’ed ToneGuns and chastised him for telling you what he thought about you. One of my First friends on here and I told him he was being mean for saying what everyone on here was thinking!

I’ve given away lots of stuff for free…extra stuff….even stuff from my OWN collection that I had to go out and replace if I had it….and I NEVER asked anyone for anything in return. NOT EVEN A THANK YOU! Why? Because I don’t do it for them! I don’t do it for ME! I do it so hopefully someone 1,000 years from now might open his Great-great Grandfathers trunk and find a GI Joe….and our kids will know what they meant to US…..

But does it mean anything to you? Or is it more important that you’re popular on this website and people are singing your praises?



Uh,…no! We IM’d each other and he asked me how I liked it….I probably forgot to tell him how awesome I thought what he did was…the difference is he IM’d me in private and asked, he didn’t act all high and Mighty. He didn’t make a post where he made it clear I didn’t thank him and make me look so bad, that by even just admitting to it, and trying to rectify the situation, I’d look bad.

You talk about how there are no manners here….you offered everyone something for FREE and then told them what $hit they were for applying for it! That’s rude! People FORGAVE you and overlooked that arrogant little stunt like it never happened…to include me. But GOD FORBID you could forgive me for forgetting to thank you for something you sent me….
You set it up to let me know I FORGOT to thank you, yet made me look so bad in this post, that I’m now ashamed to admit it!

This may get me banned, but it’s worth it to say this to you;
I may have forgot, I may have been rude, but I am not a self-absorbed, self-rightous arrogant little @$$ like you! ToneGuns, you were Soooooo right!!

I think..
 

I actually think both of you need to change your signatures to something more pro-Joe dios. :o

I can understand when I've done something for someone (ebay) related transactions. If they don't respond to it. I don't tarnish all transactions with the same brush. Just because one person doesn't leave feedback or acknowledge what you did.. it doesn't mean everyone will ignore your work.

For the most part I've begun to realise that my photos and animations are recognised by people and they enjoy looking at them just as much as I enjoy creating them,

Blowtorch.. I do get where your coming from with the lack of acknowledgement on thanks etc. I'm a seller on ebay and this has happened alot. But it's up to you if you want to put everyone in that same boat. The truth is not everyone has the same life and same way of dealing with things.
You know more recently on a different site. I done a massive transaction with someone and totally forgot to leave feedback. It does happen. :o

Forgetting to say thank you isn't bad manners.. it's called being forgetful. I'd agree if someone would of PM'd you saying "These free items sucked" that's bad manners and is rude.

On the whole side of things I do think the banners and Signatures need to be more happy sided and pro-joe dio active. :cool:

I've gone away for a few minutes which usually means I'll let things like this pass, but I had to come back in response to this. And I haven't been involved in any sniping, flaming, joefan21 baiting, anything like that -- come on, find existing fault with me.

I agree totally with what Frank posted. This thread bothered me a bit to start with but now I do feel a need to speak out; I don't like the way Blowtorch is apparently the self-appointed moral watchdog for the forum -- it's one thing to step in and try to calm things down when others are being rude, abusive or antagonistic already but it's something else entirely to bring something to this public arena which basically points fingers and seeks to put down others.


Why? Why do they need to do this in public? In my opinion it's rather arrogant and rude if someone goes an extra mile supposedly for "good karma" then broadcasts that, pointing out what they've done to get recognition from anyone other than the original recipient. Conversely, as the recipient, I wouldn't necessarily want to make a big deal out of any unrequested extra goodwill in case I a)embarrassed them, or b)set up any expectations in others of that person. If the transaction wasn't conducted publicly, there's no obligation, personal or otherwise, to publicly comment on its outcome.

So you had what you felt was a bad experience, that you would have liked someone to acknowledge something you did. That is fair enough, it's not too much to expect a bit of courtesy from someone that you've gone out of your way for. But now I find that you apparently didn't bother contacting them privately to ask what was up, or to say that you were a bit put out by their not saying anything, but instead brought it up in public in a way that basically involved a sweeping generalisation of all the site members, a condemnation of us based on that, and at the same time placed yourself as morally superior. Like your Infantry 6-pack "experiment" to expose selfishness and greed. And your own pride, apparently.

I have thought Frank's "We know drama" sig is a bit close to the bone but for all of us who know what it means it's pretty funny -- I think it was a refreshing way of getting past that whole mess and I also really like the dual meaning aspect, as we do indeed know drama which all our diorama pics and stories can attest to. The "I want my comic pack Firefly" likewise made sense and was funny to all of us who knew where it came from, would go over the heads of any total newbies, and would possibly (hopefully) act as a deterrent to that troll trying to come back and start up right away, again.

Blowtorch's new sig is NOT going to put a very good message across to any potential members, and as I previously inferred, I don't see where the right comes from to make that kind of statement. For the record, I'm personally offended by it.

I may appear somewhat hypocritical for saying all this publicly, but it's the public debate of it that has drawn me in. I come here to share in the imaginative, creative use of GI Joe toys and if I can converse with like-minded people (publicly or privately) and further my involvement in the hobby I'm glad I have that ability too. And it's something I'll do on my own terms within the boundaries of the official site rules; I don't appreciate being judged as morally inferior, or needing to prove that I'm not according to the personal standards of one site member.

Finally -- thanks again, Blowtorch, for posting about the death of Captain America without any kind of spoiler warning, on the day of that comic's publication.

I am in complete agreement with Rich on this one............Frank, Alan......you both need to change the little 'snide comments' on your sigs, NOW. Thanks


Now, I've really, Really, REALLY had enough...........I'm sick and tired of all the petty anty Bull$#!t that's going on with this site lately!!! This is my last and final attempt to get you all to 'play nice' (or in the worst case, find your own corners and not interact with certain others who 'rub you the wrong way') You should all be utterly and completely ashamed of yourselves!!! With the exception of Mobius and Ruki, all of your driver's license's should, SHOULD state that you are adults!!! AND unless I've suffered from some sort of blow to the head (which, since all this p!$$ing started and I've agreed to be an admin-I wonder if I should check for bleeding) START ACTING YOUR AGE!!!

I'm locking this thread.........and letting everyone, EVERYONE know-if I get rubbed the wrong way from some sort of snide, rude or otherwise B*TCHY comments (intended or subtle).........the person(s) will be recieving some sort of suspension....NO DISCUSSION!!!

You don't like it?? Then YOU take over OR find somewhere else to get into confrontations OR start your own G.I. Joe site and do whatever you want...........but here on JoeDios...........THIS CRAP IS DONE!!!!!!!!

I'd like to see anyone find any fault with your either Stomer...........and if they do, then they'll have to come through me
(and NO, I'm not playing favorites here-I defend EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU EQUALLY!)

And the reason that I agreed to take on so much responsiblity here was for the camraderie I felt when I joined..........not the b*tchy, schoolgirl bathroom in-fighting (I've been there).........

You should remember that your words and actions are setting an example for people............and I for one would not be boasting at this moment...........